wouldnt putting a non white model on the cover just be tokeniism tho - isnt the bigger issue about whether the images in the whole of the magazine consistently represent the colour, gender, age, ability, disability, size, sexuality etc of all the potential readership ?
the advertising images will always be the marketable ones - young fit attractive etc and that is reflective of all marketing - so RW cant be blamed for that -unless they make a conscious decision to only sell 'inclusive' advertising space
but the images that accompany the articles and especially race and event reports would do more to encourage if they were reflective of all peeps who might be incvolved in running ( race marshalls in wheelchairs ?)
As an ex-model, who has worked both in Europe and Africa, I would say a lot has to do with what 'look' sells magazines rather than views of people.
Besides, the concept of beauty can vary between cultures as well. In Europe, being skinny is considered beautiful whereas in Africa, being slightly overweight is fine. Thiness is perceived as 'looking like you're dying form hunger/aids/victim of war'.
And I never turned up late for photographs, but then I was never famous.
People start threads on racial topics on this board, but any racist point of view is prohibited (except in the reading group, where we are allowed to stand up for 19th century Tasmanians against the invading hordes). As racist points of view are pounced on, and the 'perpetrators' reported and banned, people on this board should avoid starting threads on racial topics. It's a politically correct board.
Dodge - plenty of things I would like to say about that, but I am not going to be drawn into commenting further. It only gets misunderstood, and then it gets unpleasant, and then Chimp thinks it's Groundhog Day again. We've been there already. This is a politically correct forum. I am merely suggesting, as I have suggested before recently, that people keep their racial material off the board, because only comments with a certain range are acceptable to the consumers here.
So why bother entering into the thread? I asked earlier if you felt you would be able to express your views without being inflamitory. Do you think you could, you don't have to give an example? I'm not particularly interested in reading foundless racially intolerant opinons but am curious as to whether someone can hold views against a based purely on a racial basis that be expressed with more than reliance of knuckle-dragging rethoric. I've already said that I believe that we are all racist, to some degree or another, so I don't mean to single you out.
Anon, I have no problem with racist material being contested on this board.
But what constitutes racism is another issue entirely. As is who decides. All too often, racist is an easy insult against which no defence is accepted. Bigotry works both ways.
So let me get this straight. Because racism is generally considered totally and completely unacceptable, here as elsewhere, anon, you don't think anybody should discuss any race related matters. Because when you then want to express a racist opinion it isn't tolerated.
Is that it?
Because if I've got it right, then I don't think you are particularly oppressed. I just don't think you've realised how noxious many people think racism is.
There's a difference between race and racist, by the way.
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Actually, I'm happy to have racist views removed. I find it hard to imagine racist views that are not inflammatory.
If that's what this is about, someone dripping about moaning that s/he can't post racist material I say so much the better.
wouldnt putting a non white model on the cover just be tokeniism tho - isnt the bigger issue about whether the images in the whole of the magazine consistently represent the colour, gender, age, ability, disability, size, sexuality etc of all the potential readership ?
the advertising images will always be the marketable ones - young fit attractive etc and that is reflective of all marketing - so RW cant be blamed for that -unless they make a conscious decision to only sell 'inclusive' advertising space
but the images that accompany the articles and especially race and event reports would do more to encourage if they were reflective of all peeps who might be incvolved in running ( race marshalls in wheelchairs ?)
Not in my living room.
as long as they buy the mag
Sorry, wrong thread. Was responding to Nicko's ad for a sex slave.
...nonsense.
Besides, the concept of beauty can vary between cultures as well. In Europe, being skinny is considered beautiful whereas in Africa, being slightly overweight is fine. Thiness is perceived as 'looking like you're dying form hunger/aids/victim of war'.
And I never turned up late for photographs, but then I was never famous.
People start threads on racial topics on this board, but any racist point of view is prohibited (except in the reading group, where we are allowed to stand up for 19th century Tasmanians against the invading hordes). As racist points of view are pounced on, and the 'perpetrators' reported and banned, people on this board should avoid starting threads on racial topics. It's a politically correct board.
But what constitutes racism is another issue entirely. As is who decides. All too often, racist is an easy insult against which no defence is accepted. Bigotry works both ways.
So let me get this straight. Because racism is generally considered totally and completely unacceptable, here as elsewhere, anon, you don't think anybody should discuss any race related matters. Because when you then want to express a racist opinion it isn't tolerated.
Is that it?
Because if I've got it right, then I don't think you are particularly oppressed. I just don't think you've realised how noxious many people think racism is.
There's a difference between race and racist, by the way.
(ducks for cover)
no, the others, you know, them..
You just make yourself comfy there B. I'll put the kettle on. No need for you to help, just stay there. This might take a wee while.
I CAN SHOUT IN CAPS THOUGH
BRITISH
there goes!
oooh, got any biccies to go with that tea....half a sugar too!
fankoo!!!
.... incoming ..... !!
i am still sat here with dodge sipping my tea...
WHERES THE BICCI TIN FOR HEAVENS SAKE DODGE??