I know this is a bit late but James Thie (UK - No 2) has a site on which he has posted his complete training diary for last year - www.jamesthie.com - its really comprehensie and will give you ideas for a few different sessions.
Disappointed with form in time trial, as I thought with the quality of Monday night's 300s I would run quicker so went off too fast. Will race 2k next Sunday, although probably won't alter this week's training for it.
jimmyy by the sounds of what you are aiming for we are fairly similar runners i am hoping to hit 4 05 over 1500 and i wouldnt say 4 * 1000m is a 1500m pace session, so i would aim for as near as 3k as you can.
Injury setback! last week when doing my Thursday session I felt a pain in my upper chest as if I had strained something. Carried on running the last few days and though could feel it, wasn't affecting my hard sessions. but woke up this morning in a lot of pain so will go to the docs tomorrow and get his verdict. feels like i have starined a muscle or something. presumably will have to fully rest until completely better and don't know when that will be.
Gutted as had a good winter and have carried that on into good spring training so far but no racing for me for a while! bang goes the 3k i was going to do on sunday
verdict was strained pectoral muscle which should heal within three weeks. told that gentle running on soft surface should be okay so just got to be patient i guess
how much fitness do you reckon i would lose over that time? will 'jogging' a bit each day help maintain fitness or should i just bite the bullet and rest?
It depends on how fit u already are as to how much fitness ur lose and what ur base level of excersise is, e.g.i was training 2wice a day everyday last summer and me patella dislocated ,meaning i had to have 2weeks off, but i came back and hit a p.b, but this year i pulled my calf and had to sit out for 2weeks again when i was only training 4 times a week, and that had a major effect! Obviously SPEAK TO YOUR DOCTOR, but if u can go swimming, in place of ur normal sessions, as it keeps the pressure of u, but as its an upper body injury though u may want to get a float and just kick ur legs- if u can go running then yes any excersise will help, even if it is light jogging its better than nothing and will stop u losing as much fitness Hope this helps- Rowan
I think that a drop in the volume, keeping only the easy runs is not in the first few weeks going to have much of a detraining effect - the ionly thing that could seriously compromise your season would be if you tried to rush back and had to continue on a reduced training load over a longer period of time.
hows everyone's week going mine is tough, nice rest day today, this will probs going to do 3 * 1k + 5 * 200m, will be a gd tester to c wat 3k form i am on, hopefully all close to 3 mins, i will let you all know
Cheers for the advice Rowan,I'm going to go for a jog on grass tomorrow and see how it feels, else I'll get a float and just kick my legs at the local pool. I'll look stupid but i've got to do something! presumably exercise bike is an option too?
HC, i'm normally pretty good with injuries and don't rush back- still a long season ahead! just annoyed that i haven't raced for a while and had a few good ones lined up for the next month and won't be doing them now. Wouldn't mind if it was a 'proper' running injury! Reckon what might have caused it are the extra press ups i'd been doing lately- should have just stuck to running!
very pleased with session as it is early season and i am still not fit. Very confident about breaking 9 mins for 3k by july. How did everyone elses session go today?
no, had to sack it because of my chest injury. went for a twenty minute jog and no reaction from chest so will just keep jogging till it heals and then get back into it.
Anyhow, my week: Mon: am - 45 mins easy, pm - 5 x 900 (3min) 2:44, then all 2:36 - 2:40 Tue: 45mins steady Wed: 40 min easy Thur: Rest Fri: 12 x 30 secs hills Sat: 30 min easy + a few strides Sun: Race - 2k (5:46.4) Using it as early season under-distance for 5k and tried to hit 5:40, held 68s through first couple of laps but then faded slightly, not a bad effort as I paced it right but not as fit as I hoped, so a bit more work in training.
As for rest of week, I got a cold mid-week so I dropped the normal Wed session for a steady and took Thurs off but otherwise unaffected.
Monday 40 mins Tuesday 10 * 200 (1min) all between 28 and 30) Weds 40 mins Thurs/Fri- off injured Sat/Sun- 20 mins easy
just easy running for me this week as my chest heals. seems to be healing okay so may do a 5k on Friday
good 2k effort HC
CP, I'm happy to my put my pbs on if everyone else will. would be good to compare between different distances and see if people improve over the summer
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Interesting link, especially given some of the advice to middle distance runners given on this thread that their steady runs don't need to be that long. Would be interesting to see what people's opinions were on the Mike Gratton article about reducing mileage for track season.
Also good stuff about Ovett and Moorcroft's training.
Anyway, my week has been as follows:
Mon: 3x300 (100m walk) (50/49/49), 5x800 (3min) (2:24/2:24/2:21/2:21/2:20), 3x300 (48/48/47)
Tue: 45mins steady
Wed: 1500m time trial (4:19)
Thurs: Am: 30mins easy, pm: weights
Fri: 45mins steady
Sat 1h40 steady
Disappointed with form in time trial, as I thought with the quality of Monday night's 300s I would run quicker so went off too fast. Will race 2k next Sunday, although probably won't alter this week's training for it.
Gutted as had a good winter and have carried that on into good spring training so far but no racing for me for a while! bang goes the 3k i was going to do on sunday
how much fitness do you reckon i would lose over that time? will 'jogging' a bit each day help maintain fitness or should i just bite the bullet and rest?
Hope this helps- Rowan
HC, i'm normally pretty good with injuries and don't rush back- still a long season ahead! just annoyed that i haven't raced for a while and had a few good ones lined up for the next month and won't be doing them now. Wouldn't mind if it was a 'proper' running injury! Reckon what might have caused it are the extra press ups i'd been doing lately- should have just stuck to running!
Hope you have a good session Runnerboy
1000m: 3.03 3.05 3.03
200m 30 30 30 29 (into head wind)
very pleased with session as it is early season and i am still not fit. Very confident about breaking 9 mins for 3k by july. How did everyone elses session go today?
I ran on grass today but did roughly 2x6 300m - Striding rather than flatout.
Running today meant i've ran 7 days a week for the first time since november.
good session btw
When I boke 9 mins (8:55the year befoe last), I ran close to it a few times. Last year I ran 8:35. (top age U20)
This year I'm going for shorter distances (1500 + 800m) but hope to (later this year) get get another 20/25 seconds off my 3K time.
i got injured in november, couldn't stand not running, but it is a good time to set real long term goals.
Anyhow, my week:
Mon: am - 45 mins easy, pm - 5 x 900 (3min) 2:44, then all 2:36 - 2:40
Tue: 45mins steady
Wed: 40 min easy
Thur: Rest
Fri: 12 x 30 secs hills
Sat: 30 min easy + a few strides
Sun: Race - 2k (5:46.4) Using it as early season under-distance for 5k and tried to hit 5:40, held 68s through first couple of laps but then faded slightly, not a bad effort as I paced it right but not as fit as I hoped, so a bit more work in training.
As for rest of week, I got a cold mid-week so I dropped the normal Wed session for a steady and took Thurs off but otherwise unaffected.
I hope everyone's had a good week.
Monday 40 mins
Tuesday 10 * 200 (1min) all between 28 and 30)
Weds 40 mins
Thurs/Fri- off injured
Sat/Sun- 20 mins easy
just easy running for me this week as my chest heals. seems to be healing okay so may do a 5k on Friday
good 2k effort HC
CP, I'm happy to my put my pbs on if everyone else will. would be good to compare between different distances and see if people improve over the summer
400-59.6(lst year)
800-2:28(early last year)
1500-5:18(2 years ago when i was 13)
10k-45:06-this year ,dissapointed with this time
2 miles- 10.01
5k (track)- 15.46
5k (road)- 15.55
10k- 33.26
10 miles- 56.16