funny, i'd never ever considered not wearing the insoles, i always thought htey were essential.
ok, well if i stop wearing insoles as well then that'd probably make them a half size bigger anyway i guess. At 3 for £60 i think i'll get a range of sizes and then with insoles in or out and a range of thicknesses of socks i'll be able to wear all of them for one thing or another. or start growing plants in them.
When you say go for a half size bigger. is that a half size bigger than your shoe in another brand. i've already got nb 1221, so would i need to go a half size bigger in those?
i mean is this sizing thing just because new balance are a bit out of kilter with the rest of the shoe world? or that NB150s are a bit out of line with the rest of the NB range?
BR: Since all the races I plan to enter are road-races, I do all my training on the road.
JohnDouglas: Like everyone else has suggested buy half-size bigger then what you currently wear. For example, my adidas and gel kayanos (dont' laugh!) are size 9, the NB150s are size 9.5
FastFeet are cool I bought all my pairs from them. I'm sure they'd help you out if you had any problems.
My feet are also width 2E. To make the shoes feel comfortable I dumped the insoles and swapped the laces for elasticated Lock-Laces. These laces allow the foot to splay out on landing.
BR: I ran barefoot on the treadmill a lot to help strengthen feet. Now, as fitness improves I'm increasing the amount of time outside and have heavily reduced these to one 30min session per week.
This may change if I ever get good enough to run doubles
Nrg-b, isn't saying that if you are going to race on the road then you should only train on the road like saying if you are going to race at 6m/m then you should only train at that pace?
BR: Some might agree with that statement but not me I want to train on the roads to make my running form as efficient as possible on that surface. But I run much slower then race pace for similar reasons to you.
It's certainly not easy to adapt after 3 years of wearing clunkers.
Went out Saturday, managed to do 2 miles, calves had recovered today, thanks to ice bath I had last night. So went out and did 3 miles just now - took me 23 minutes.
I'm confident my style is good, I just hope the body adapts and it starts to become easier!
It's like starting to run all over again, which is a bit depressing! an article of faith: "I am doing this right, this is the right thing to do, just keep going!"
One good thing is as an over-pronator, my big toe joint had weakened. It looks as if that problem will now subside, since my action is much better.
Bryan, are you just doing these sessions, or are you running 'old-style' inbetween ?.
I've just done 15 mins today midfoot striking, concentrating on form. I don't think I could have done much more yet, like this, byt (touch-wood) the injury seems OK so I could build up my miles again faster if I did some sessions midfoot, some old-style.
And how long does anyone reckon it will take to build up from 15/23 mins to, say 60 mins ?
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What %tage of your NB150 training is done on the pavement/off-road?
What sort of terrain did you do the HM PB on and the HM 4 weeks prior to FLM?
In summer about 70 / 30 in favour of off road, but at the time of the races it was winter, so about 15 / 85 in favour of road.
Both races were road - flat for the pb and undulating for the MP run.
All my training is on undulating pavement. A contrarian view but what if you ran more on pavement????
Just got an email from fastfeet and they have NB RC150's in my size.
nrg-b - I like the off road in the summer or I end up running the same 7 or 8 routes all year round.
Yes I did have DOMS, but quite bad.
Why do you think pavement running would be better?
Just go one size up from your shoe size and that should do it.
After my last race it was the calves that felt particularly bad - I'm sure it's a product of poor technique and more strengthening exercises needed.
And at the risk of sounding really thick (a risk I run on a constant basis) - what's DOMS?
DOMS = delayed onset muscle stiffness.
No widths in 150s - I wear 1/2 size bigger. In fact I wear the same US size in ALL my shoes - it seems to do the trick.
funny, i'd never ever considered not wearing the insoles, i always thought htey were essential.
ok, well if i stop wearing insoles as well then that'd probably make them a half size bigger anyway i guess. At 3 for £60 i think i'll get a range of sizes and then with insoles in or out and a range of thicknesses of socks i'll be able to wear all of them for one thing or another. or start growing plants in them.
Thanks
http://www.fastfeet.co.uk/
I guess you'll have to ask Paul about what sizes he has left though...
Dave
Running in 150's is already very hardcore. They're like plimsolls, only more pared-down.
Running in 150's without insoles is the hardcore of the hardcore, and simply not necessary in my book.
;-)
:-P :-))
Where did you get those weights from by the way? Did you get them from manufacturers or did you weigh 'em yourself?
When you say go for a half size bigger. is that a half size bigger than your shoe in another brand. i've already got nb 1221, so would i need to go a half size bigger in those?
i mean is this sizing thing just because new balance are a bit out of kilter with the rest of the shoe world? or that NB150s are a bit out of line with the rest of the NB range?
hmm, not sure if that makes sense or not.
That's shoes to wear when you're not running ...
:-))))
JohnDouglas: Like everyone else has suggested buy half-size bigger then what you currently wear. For example, my adidas and gel kayanos (dont' laugh!) are size 9, the NB150s are size 9.5
FastFeet are cool I bought all my pairs from them. I'm sure they'd help you out if you had any problems.
My feet are also width 2E. To make the shoes feel comfortable I dumped the insoles and swapped the laces for elasticated Lock-Laces. These laces allow the foot to splay out on landing.
This may change if I ever get good enough to run doubles
Went out Saturday, managed to do 2 miles, calves had recovered today, thanks to ice bath I had last night. So went out and did 3 miles just now - took me 23 minutes.
I'm confident my style is good, I just hope the body adapts and it starts to become easier!
It's like starting to run all over again, which is a bit depressing! an article of faith: "I am doing this right, this is the right thing to do, just keep going!"
One good thing is as an over-pronator, my big toe joint had weakened. It looks as if that problem will now subside, since my action is much better.
I've just done 15 mins today midfoot striking, concentrating on form. I don't think I could have done much more yet, like this, byt (touch-wood) the injury seems OK so I could build up my miles again faster if I did some sessions midfoot, some old-style.
And how long does anyone reckon it will take to build up from 15/23 mins to, say 60 mins ?