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On that note - if we charged a fiver a pop to slug Farage in the face...
It would also raise £350m to spend on the NHS...
Tim Farron is the leader of what is left of the Lib Dems.
Fuck.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Lib Dems merge with the centre and right of the Labour party if Corbyn can't be shifted.
We might slag Farage off, but a lot of people love him for all this sort of stuff.
That's not fair on the slugs. #Gastropodsarepeopletoo
Touche Zouse
15West this is one of the very reasons this whole thing saddens me. People hold him up as a voice of the people. As a beacon of hope and a solution to everything that is 'wrong' with this country.
ee cummings sums it up nicely...
Humanity i love you
because you would rather black the boots of
success than enquire whose soul dangles from his
watch-chain which would be embarrassing for both
parties and because you
unflinchingly applaud all
songs containing the words country home and
mother when sung at the old howard
Humanity i love you because
when you’re hard up you pawn your
intelligence to buy a drink and when
you’re flush pride keeps
you from the pawn shop and
because you are continually committing
nuisances but more
especially in your own house
Humanity i love you because you
are perpetually putting the secret of
life in your pants and forgetting
it’s there and sitting down
on it
and because you are
forever making poems in the lap
of death Humanity
i hate you
Personally, I take issue with the use of the word 'cunt' as a form of insult.
As a heterosexual male there's a conflict here of the most natural order.
🙂
Recently we had a man kill an MP because he didn't agree with her views. People seemed to say that we need to stop hating and treat politicians with more respect. Then in the next breath they verbally abuse Nigel Farage or Donald Trump etc. The point being you should respect people who I agree with but it's okay to say or do what you like if I don't like them. A lot of people with values that are deeply flawed.
Oh..ok...I respect Farage's right to be a total cockhead.
All of this.
Old Labour reflected the interests of the industrial working man and woman. Labour's left represent a world that no longer exists while the right are seen as no different from the Tories. Whichever way it turns it steps on a rake like Sideshow Bob.
I also envy people that don't seem to care about the wider world. I wonder how many that voted to leave have even bothered watching the news since Friday? It's also all the other things you mentioned.
While some of them have gone very quiet and others are full of remorse there are still plenty hanging around saying "we won". I keep reminding them that they also lot, they just haven't realised it yet.
Sadly I think it is true that nobody ever seems to learn from the past. I think that the further away we get from WW2 the closer we probably are to WW3 because fewer people are around who experienced it and never want to go through it again. I mean if lesson number one is don't give any sort of mandate to people who talk about building a wall to keep Mexicans out or produce racist election posters - epic fail!
And take Syria - to most people it isn't the humanitarian crisis that bothers them, it's the threat of more "brown people" on the doorstep. It doesn't matter that they are suffering only that they don't inconvenience us with their presence. It's an attitude borne of only ever having experienced war on a cinema screen. Maybe it is inevitable that people have to go through periods of war or other deep unrest in order to enjoy periods of peace. I don't know
Murdoch says Brexit vote was wonderful.
Philo - once you start going anywhere near respecting the views, feelings or attitudes of Donald Trump or Nigel Farage you are at the top of a very slippery slope.
We should be calling these people out for what they are - fascist rabble-rousers - not giving them "respect" because they call themselves politicians. Please think about what you are saying here.
"Not respecting" Jo Cox was not the problem. Murdering Jo Cox was the problem.
He also called Trump a "very able man". There you go, doesn't matter what I think about him, he has the "respect" of Rupert Murdoch.
Boris is backtracking on his backtracking.
Yvette Cooper is right on the money:
We are here without a plan because politics has failed. Because our political process just couldn’t deal with the difficult issues so they got worse. Because too many of our politicians couldn’t work out how to solve problems so they made false promise or just walked away. Because too many towns feel they have no future. Because immigration seemed too hard to solve. Because the EU seemed too hard to reform. Because inequality is still rising and it seemed too hard to stop. Because we weren’t prepared to take action to sort out housing. Because trust collapsed. And with every layer of failure, politics just made it worse.
www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/british-fishermen-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches
There's been arguments about who's got all the racists on each side of the vote. It varies between there was no racial influence at play (how dare you even suggest that...), to immigration was a key factor for remain voters because they'd rather have white Catholic immigrants than risk an influx of black and Muslim immigrants from the Commonwealth if we left. We're all united in prejudice now.
I'm certain I'm a bigot. I've got a shed load of intransigent prejudicial views. I try to keep them in check. I don't want them really getting out and hurting anyone. And when it really matters I try and box them off and tell them to shut the fuck up. Perhaps we as a nation need an intervention, a 12 step program to deal with some underlying issues. To sort the truth from the fear.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/entire-family-being-melodramatic-twats-about-brexit-20160628109895
My old mum was a classic for that... 'I've got nothing against them but...' was her favourite line as she was telling me she wasn't homophobic/racist/bigoted.
I suspect you may be correct JT. One of the first lessons we had at police training college referred to us all having our prejudices, the trick is to recognise them and not allow them to colour judgement.
My nan used to blame all the problems on the darkies.
My dad was on that BNP list that was leaked to the press a few years ago.
It's in my blood!
I've become a bit ageist the last few days.
I often find myself questioning if certain things are racist. I remember I went to a fancy dress party and 2 mates made themselves black - one as Pele and the other as the first black winner of Miss World (her husband was the only black person at the party). It didn't feel like it was racist but I'm sure some people would've classified it as such. I also know a number of people working in the NHS who get annoyed and complain about immigrants not integrating and learning English because it makes their job frustratingly difficult. I'm not sure if that's racist either.
I do think often people aren't racist on a personal level (in the way they treat friends and workmates) but they are racist on a more general level, if that makes sense. They can then convince themselves they're not racist because of the way they treat their foreign friends. I'm not sure I've expressed that so well but hopefully you get what I mean.
What really pisses me off is Australians coming over here and running faster than me.
The only thing that motivates me to train harder is that I can't stand being beaten by Poms.