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my theoretical training for the summer is: recover from last week's marathon (by running a 10k next week, 5k the week after, 10k the week after), then return to a solid 35 miles per week.
Every two weeks after that (or from July), increase weekly mileage by 5, so, 35, 35, 40, 40, 45, 45, etc until I can plateau at 60 a week, then sit at that.
I think 60 would be: 20, 5, 12, 10, 13, 5, 0, which would vary a little so I could increase to 25 once a month or so!
Absolutely mad theory, but it might work!
Well done on everyone's training.
AGF nice days running sure Lulu enjoyed getting out
Jim it's twork world Police and Firefigter games half marathon
then Dublin in October
well done on your 12 miles today.
SM6 hope you had a good rest day and the calfskin feel better.
SC nice recovery run, sounds like a big turn out in the race for life.
NN nice to see you feeling more confident again
well done on your run today
over the last two years I've used the turbo trainer/bike and swimming to keep the fitness levels up and do a few Tri's. Think I will take a leaf out of the Mo Fara book and also do more off road running and some track sessions over June
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and July. Also don't count me out of VLM just yet
and tea and cake in the park
Fiona sounds like you and your sister had a great day and thanks for the nice comments, ( that goes for everyone
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Jim sounds like a plan to me.
Well another 45 mins on the turbo trainer, felt like I was back in the Caymans with the heating on and oven on
Diet also started as I have put on nealy a stone in weight since London 
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Evening all! I know I haven't been on for a while, but wow! You lot can't half talk!
congratulations, once again, to Mr and Mrs NP! Fab photos too! But, NP, A STONE!?! Lol!
ran a bumpy 10k this morning in horrendous conditions! Didn't push too much, but ended up with same time as last year when I was going for it!
14th in 40.35- enough for first vet last year, but only fourth this year 
Did another 6.5m this afternoon. Going to start to slowly crank the volume up again now ready for Chester training 
42.85m for this week. Recovery done and dusted 
Quick post: Good luck tomorrow OH at the Cape Wrath Half
Race List http://nrwoolnough.wix.com/2013-race-list
NN, a good 11 today, I'm sure the confidence will improve with each passing run
Fiona, well done with the run and hill walking hope you managed to miss the rain
NP well done on another turbo session, and if you can't stand the heat move the turbo out of the kitchen
Jason well done with the 10k
OH, good luck mate, looking forward to the race reports
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For your amusement found this on the interweb, looking a little cream crackered around the five mile mark
Good grief NP a STONE !!!
Fiona sounds like a nice girlie weekend..I am close to my sister too ..has your entered next years VLM ?all the cross training was/is to stop me putting on a STONE..!! with the reduced mileage, also I am enjoying it and finding the pilates especially is helping with balance and core strength..I have a gym membership which id £35 a month and hardly used it till a few weeks ago, and I did £180 worth of classes/gym/swim in 3 weeks !! (hope they dont throw me out)
Jason well done on the 10k and the doubles day (here we go again)
OH good luck for tomorrow..
Cross post...looking good Stewart, and at mile 5 of a 10k you are allowed to look cream crackered, worth it when you are on the way to a massive pb !!
Nice to have a plan IJ.
The thing about the weight is I don't think being at racing weight is sustainable year round. It is really good to chill out for a while and eat/drink what you want, mentally as well as physically. By the time the world chaps come round you'll be as thin as a rake again NP!
Will you be back to 100+ mile weeks for the autumn campaign jason?
Good luck OH!!
Blowing a gale here today and just freezing, hate to think what it's like at Cape Wrath - it didn't get that name for nothing! 
Looks like you're about to overtake the bloke in front of you Stewart!
NN our gym is great value too - £17.50 a month for everything, classes, gym, pool, track, jog scotland. I think a family membership is about £25 a month. My sister has entered the ballot so fingers crossed for her. She did say never again......!!
Should get a run later, will have to juggle training around this week; flying to Birmingham on Wednesday, back Friday but the running gear will be first to be packed!
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I have never been at racing weight fiona
Enjoy your travels this week.
OH - good luck with your races this week sir !!!
8 Miles this morning. Its harder running in the morning
OH enjoy your race, look forward to the report.
AGF well done with the 8 miles this morning.
Fiona enjoy your trip don't forget to pack the trainers
I don't normally eat burgers or chips. And that type of stuff but for some reason I did whilst away and my sweet tooth kicked in 
it won't take much to shift now I'm in to day two of my diet
NN and Fiona that's great value I pay £24 just for 10 swims gyms here start at around £30 plus a month.
Jason that's great milage again your right back into it now
Stuart hope you enjoyed your day off
Stewart nice recovery 6 and well done to your eldest. Great piccie
NN nice 11m and glad the ankle's holding up
Fiona nice hill walk. That's quite a long break from running for your sister!
IJ good plan - just don't go too mad on those races so soon after the mara
NP well done on the turbo. Sorry to say what everyone else said, but a STONE
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Jason congrats on the first vet on your hilly 10k. Well done on the mileage re-build.
AGF lol. Nice 8 miler.
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Another recovery 3m this morning plus some strides. New streak has started. I'm planning a few weeks of easy running, then I've booked a series of races - from 3k to 10k - to have some fun each weekend.
1:58:31 just PB'd by about 20s (but last PB was on flat course so well pleased.
Windy but dry.
Horrendous forecast with 49mph wind and heavy rain
Light dusting of snow on hills overnight.
Strong gusts of wind the night before and heavy showers during breakfast.
vest , long sleeved top, waterproof and hat in order
However winds were moderate and mostly favorable and stayed dry for most of race.
( Horizontal hail now! )
Deer crossing the road as we headed out in 3 minibuses to start.
Met up with UTC from Scottish runners thread before start
First 2 miles were head into wind but still managed 8 minute miles. Across the wind at the head of Loch Eriboll then turning up the glen with the wind behind us.
The sun came out. The waterproof came off and my wife Elspeth swept by ...
...despite her recent injury
Easy run back up the glen. Passed 7 mile mark at just under the hour and realised sub2and PB were possible although all the hills were still ahead.
Wind was really only a problem at one leg of the hair pin bends where wind was channeled right against us. Last 1.5 miles were tough into the wind too.
Mile markers were quite optimistic and there was a clear half mile to the finish at the 13 mile mark.
Crossed the line at 1:58:31. Well pleased
Pub Quiz tonight.
Short off road "hill" race tomorrow.
the races I'm doing are part of my club's road runners' league: the first 10k will be a time trial to see if the last 10k was a blip, the 5k will be a hard-arse sprint and the next 10k will be a hard-arse sprint, though as it's June by then, the marathon will be long gone and nearly forgotten!
OH, congrats on getting a new PB especially given that the conditions were not favourable, loved the report, good luck with the quiz tonight and the hill race tomorrow
OH - excellent result! Well done on the new pb!!!
IJ- good luck with the races
tek- thanks, but I was first last year, not this year
Good luck with the streak 
NP- getting back to it, mate
AGF- I find morning runs harser too, but not so bad when it's daylight....
Fiona- have a good trip
Just found this training plan- might give it a bash- looks like a nice mix
http://www.209events.com/file/253.pdf
OH well done nice to PB on such a tough course.
Fiona trainers are even more important to me than hair straighteners when it come to packing..
NP I a sure the weight will drop off, thats one thing men seem to be able to get to grips with easier than women, thats why I would rather not put it on in the first place ,I honestly cant remember the last time I had burger and chips..although I do like the odd cake and chocolate of course..
Tek 5k-10k fun ?!
..nice to have a plan
AGF I dont know about harder to run in the morning, I find it virtually impossible, nice 8 miler there.
Jason I am sure that plan will suit someone like you good luck with that.
spinning later for me I will jog the long way round to the gym and back to get 4 easy miles done,
great link, Jason. I'm pleased to note that it's not too dissimilar from my plan, except that the numebrs are just bigger! I think the main difference is that when Mike Grattan says to jog for an hour, he means a 10 mile run whereas if I jog for an hour it's 6-7 miles!
- OH, well done, great effort in tough conditions!
IJ- same as me then
my 6.5 recovery runs are just under the hour- 52-54 mins 
NN- enjoy the spinning and jogging
Erm I will rephrase that..easy RUN to gym I am not a jogger
I AM a jogger
runners wear garmins, shorts (or half length girlie leggings) and t-shirts, even in snow;
joggers wear headphones, hoodies and tracksuit trousers or leggings
Wow - now theres a segmentation of the running market
......... I best go buy a hoodie 
OH congrats on a great race - PB !
and a super report. Enjoy the quiz night...
Jason sorry - read it in a hurry this morning
NN enjoy the jog (sorry RUN) and spin
IJ and AGF
Congrats OH, and good luck to you and Elspeth for the rest of the week.
So does wearing my garmin HRM while spinning, and the only person who hasnt bought a softie cushioned seat cover for classes mean I have just spinned /spanned or spunned ? which is tougher
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I have just runned and spunned..or should that be just ran and spanned
?now eating steak !!
NN- good rinning and spinning
Just over 6m recovery run for me this evening. First post London double day planned for tomorrow
Was supposed to be doing Swansea Bay 5k tomorrow evening, but the weather forecast has changed my mind 
HRM for spinning sounds quite dedicated, do you measure distance peddled too? if I did it my OCD would insist I peddled after the class just to make up a round number of miles!
Just thinking of the verbs... I spin, I will spin, I did spin? I spun? I span? or with so many options, I suspect I just spammed?!