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ive just had a look and it's £84 return, for going on 4th back on 6th. rudeness!
We've yet to book, but believe we're flying out on the Wednesday and coming back on Sunday evening.
Last week I came down with the dreaded lurgy, but apart from taking Friday off as I felt really under the weather with sore throat and cough I managed to keep running all at a nice easy pace to keep my mileage up.
Mon - 6 miles recovery from the 10 miles race the day before
Tues - am 10 miles / pm 3.5 miles
Wed - am 5 miles / pm 6 miles
Thurs - 8.5 miles
Fri - rest
Sat - am 10 miles / pm 3 miles
Sun - 18 miles - didn't feel great on this run as my throat felt a bit too sore, but kept pace easy
Total 70 miles
BR & Hilly - Awesome mileage, especially as you're just "warming up". I did about 55 miles last week, hopefully I can increase it to 70 without getting injured. I find that tiredness is my worst enemy, it prevents me doing as many "quality" sessions as I would like.
BR/Hilly - quick question. I'm 42, have been running for 2 years and had some steady progress. How long do you think I can keep improving, as age catches up with me?
Thanks Neil. Planned on going early on the Saturday anyway. Will definitely be a more relaxed trip than NY
I also had a down week last week...only did 90 miles
haha, only joking
In the end I've decided to go by Eurostar. I'm sick of airports and wanted to take the train anyway and they were roughly the same price so it's now booked. Heading out at about 15.30 on the Friday and coming back at about 13.00 on the Tuesday. Just need to sort out getting to London and back now.
First week of training has been and gone. 25 or so miles done including an undulating 10 miles yesterday morning in Sheffield back on a route I used to run back in the day when I lived down there. I discovered any hill strength I may have once had has now gone. All in all though I felt pretty good and it was nice to be running out of a city again.
Is anyone planning on doing any cross training as part of their preparation? The Hal Higdon plan has each Monday down as a cross training day. I'm planning on doing either spinning or swimming on these days but curious as to what anyone else might be doing.
Can't shift this cold though, another semi sleepless night with razorblades in my throat!! Hilly, how on earth do you manage to keep running through a cold? I'm terrified my heart rate would go through the roof.
Eurostar booked. £74 Saturday am - Tuesday afternoon.
Barry - yes, spinning was a regular Monday evening activity for me during FLM training this year. Combined with some stretching and a nice sauna afterwards it made a welcome change from all the running and I'm sure it helped with recovery after the Sunday run. This year I'm dropping x-training for an extra day's running, although still doing some weights/core strength stuff on my easy running days.
Is any one here going to follow the Hal Higdon Novice plans. I am not sure if I should follow novice 1 or 2. Novice 2 has pace workouts and a bit longer at weekend.
Would be nice to support each other if both doing the same plan.
Will try again with local club tonight and I am prepared for the hills tonight, having taken a hilly route for my last 2 runs and was fine. Just hope it is not raining again.
Hope it goes well tonight Meysey Man.
I'm following a RW plan just because I did one before and got used to the structure of it (need to modify bits though, such as giving a better taper!), but I know plenty of people follow HH's plans so hopefully someone will be doing the same as you.
MM - I've just had a look at the two plans. I'd be inclined to tentatively start out on the Novice 2 plan and see how you get on. e.g. how do your legs feel on Thursday morning after two consecutive day's running including a hard 5 miles? And on Friday's rest day, after 3 consecutive days, how do you feel about running 8 miles the next day rather than 6? You can always tweak the plan and do, say, easy pace runs on the odd Wednesday if it feels right. I reckon the marathon will be a more comfortable experience with the extra miles and 4x 17m+ LRs as opposed to just 2 in your legs. Also the pace runs will give your training more variety.
J3ff - What sort mileage were you doing for Paris last year, and how many days' running/wk? I followed HH's Intermediate II for FLM this year - 5 days' running, 1 day x-training, max 50mpw, 3x 20m runs. I did tweak the plan a bit, mainly by adding tempo runs mid-week but followed it almost religiously otherwise.
J3ff - blimey, with a bit of consistency you'll be knocking chunks off your time! My time at London was 3:04:56 which I think has a nice pattern to it, but it was 4:56 short of my target - London wasn't quite as hot as Paris but it still slowed me down.
I think the toughest thing about the HH intermediate schedules is the back-to-back Saturday and Sunday runs - esp when there is a marathon pace run the day before LR - but if you can cope with that and 3 other days during the week it's a good one to go for. Maybe decide between I & II depending on where your mileage is at the moment, i.e. can you start straight off with a 10 mile LR or ease in more gently? Either way I definitely think you should try to get in the 3x 20m runs as a minimum.
B Rubble - I'm 43 and still improving. Been running for 11 years but only really seriously for about 4. I think you'll have plenty of years to continue improving. Look at Martin Rees he didn't start running until his late 40s and has become the best in his age group in the country.
As for increasing miles and tiredness. My only advice is to eat and drink well and eventually the body adapts. Without sounding big headed or anything 70 miles for myself and BR does not take it out of us. I get tired when I'm hitting 80+ miles, but just take as much rest in between runs as possible.
J3ff - by keeping the runs easy. I find that it helps to clear my airways, which otherwise feel so blocked. I did however take Friday off as i think I was running a temperature and felt really grotty.
Barry - Yes, I did a few warm-up races but I didn't sacrifice any LR mileage. Between new year and the marathon I did 2x 10 miles, a HM and a 20m race. The two 10 milers were quite early in the schedule; from memory the LRs were only up to about 13 miles, so with warm-up before the races this was pretty much covered anyway. Then the HM was on a scheduled step-back week on mileage (the schedule had 12m for the reduced LR) and I did the 20m race as my last LR (10m easy + 10 @ target MP)
What does this mean? 1m jog then 3x1m (or 9 mins) fast. Does the 3x1m mean 3 lots of 1 miles? because if it does it would take me 30 mins to do 3 miles not 9 mins. Sorry if i'm being thick.