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Thanks, Alehouse. As Andrew says, I hope it's nothing too serious?
I managed my first 20 of the year yesterday. Started off a bit sluggish then I had a bit of downhill at around 5 miles and that just gave me some momentum that lasted the next 15 miles, ended up with 7.43 average pace and whilst obviously tired, I had no overwhelming desire to stop or slow.
Just a spin class today to loosen the legs off.
J-Gav, that's a shame being ill when away like that. Take it easy for a bit as tonsillitis and knock you about for a good couple of weeks.
I've been ticking over following sundays 20. Legs were a bit stiff Monday so did an easy 20 minutes on the treadmill followed by spin then yesterday I did a very slow 5 at lunchtime then an interval session in the evening. Will have a run free day today.
Tonsillitis sounds horrible JGav - hopefully you are shot of it now?
Did my intervals session last night - was actually only 3x800 (not 4x as I said above). First two reps felt good, third felt a bit horrible, but I do have a cold/cough at the moment so breathing isn't perfect at the moment! Paces for the reps were 6:41, 6.28; 6:28.
So, as promised, an update! Hope you are sitting
comfortably...it is a long read!
Jan 12th, saw consultant re Achilles and he gave the go ahead to up
the running, gradually. Complained to him about some back pain which I had been
having for a few days and he said get back to him if it didn’t go away.
Sufficiently uncomfortable to get stuck on his couch and he had to help me off!
Fast forward to Jan 29 when I went to see the GP as I had
the beginnings of yet another chest infection, plus the back pain had worsened.
After some discussion she phoned the local A&E and told them she was
sending me to see them as she was concerned about the fourth or fifth chest
infection in three months and was something more sinister going on. She then
phoned a taxi firm and told me to leave my car.
Six hours later and I had had a full battery of tests including bloods, x-rays,
scans etc. Was called in to see a chest consultant who said that everything was
fine with the chest, no infections and better than pretty well everybody he
sees of my age and even ten years younger. I asked him about the back, knowing
that the scan would cover both front and back: “I’m a chest guy so I haven’t
looked at that!” I asked him if he kindly could have a glance.
Two minutes later the chest guy came back to say that “This changes everything!
You have an acute fracture at T7!” No wonder I had been in pain!
I asked what that meant and he said I would have to discuss it with my GP,
which Idid the next day when she phoned me on her day off to ask how I had got
on. She told me to come and see her on the 31st January. She
suggested that I get back to my Achilles consultant and also to get an
appointment with my cancer consultant to see if it was related to the prostate
cancer that was treated 5 years ago or to some other cancer affecting the
Saw both consultants in the first week of Feb. Achilles/back consultant looked
at scans and the scan report and said it would be 10 to 12 weeks from the date
of the break before the fracture was healed, although we can only surmise when
the damage was caused, which I will do below! He was concerned that the report
said that I was osteopenic, i.e. early stages of osteoporosis. Blood tests were
taken and he phone 48 hours later with the results and his suggestion. Calcium
levels were fine but vitamin D level was very low and he prescribed major doses
of Vit D for 6 weeks (high strength not available on the NHS, which would have
been free at my age!). To see physio in a couple of weeks (which I did and have
Saw oncologist who was not concerned and sent me back to the GP for her to
organise bone density scans. Still waiting for that appointment.
So, how did the fracture happen? Can only speculate, but I have over the years
had neck pain at various times, and when I get this I go to see an osteopath. I
was getting neck pain in November and have been seeing the osteopath who has
been working on my neck and back, and did so on January 3rd and 19th.
Some of the work on the back has been quite severe, leaving me in pain whilst
in the clinic, and afterwards: little surprise if he has been working on a back
that is both osteopenic and fractured...or did he cause the fracture given that
there have been no falls or accidents? Wonder what a solicitor might make of
So, no running to report and the only exercise has been
gentle work on the exercise bike and the Achilles exercises. Now allowed gentle
Sorry to be so long-winded and please don’t offer sympathy!
One of those frustrating things! Hope to be able to post some running by
Easter! Won't really have run since last June with the Achilles injury. Any advice about what to do about the osteopath would be helpful!
Alehouse, what a nightmare. Though I must confess as the story unfolded and there was talk of oncologists etc I was happy to get to the end and find that there was nothing sinister in terms of your general health.
It isn't my area of law, but it certainly sounds like a scenario that a medical negligence solicitor would be interested in exploring further
Nice intervals, Andrew.
I had tonsillitis in 2012. I used to get it a fair bit as a child. It's a very different condition as an adult and wiped me out for a good 5 days. Felt much like what I remember flu to feel like.
I am still keen to see what you can do in a race, jgav. If 10k pace is 6.10, then for me threshold would be just under 6.20. I would really get something in asap, even a parkrun just to get a firm idea of where your fitness and paces sit. Good session eitherway though.
Gym night last night, planning a mp session over lunch.
Yes, good session JGav (although I agree with DT over the 'branding' of your paces!).
I just did an easy 5 miler last night. Left foot/ankle felt a bit stiff last night and is still a little tender today, so I am keeping a weathered eye on it before deciding how to attack my run this evening. It is supposed to be 3.5 miles at tempo.
I am still keen to see what you can do in a race, jgav. If 10k pace is 6.10, then for me threshold would be just under 6.20. I would really get something in asap, even a parkrun just to get a firm idea of where your fitness and paces sit. Good session eitherway though.Gym night last night, planning a mp session over lunch.
Does sound like a hard session! Definitely do a race though, then you can figure out your exact pace zones. If you did a 5k on Saturday, what time would you expect to do?
My parkrun on Saturday just confirmed to me that I am training at the correct paces at the moment, so I haven't changed them yet despite feeling like maybe I could manage with slightly faster paces.
I follow the adage of "train to your current fitness, not your target fitness"!
Does sound like a hard session! Definitely do a race though, then you can figure out your exact pace zones. If you did a 5k on Saturday, what time would you expect to do?My parkrun on Saturday just confirmed to me that I am training at the correct paces at the moment, so I haven't changed them yet despite feeling like maybe I could manage with slightly faster paces.I follow the adage of "train to your current fitness, not your target fitness"!
So I did my tempo session last night after all. Warm up mile then straight into 3.5 miles at tempo (notionally between 7.20 - 7.30 pace) then a warm down mile.
I was a little cautious to begin with due to the achey foot, and I think the cold that I have was also impacting on me slightly, as the paces for the first 2 miles were only 7.28 and 7.26 which, whilst within the notional pace band, were about 10 seconds a mile slower than last week's equivalent run for the same effort level. Mile 3 was quicker in 7.13 and the odd half a mile (which was largely uphill) was at 7.18 pace.
Glad to get the session done, and have two rest days now.
I am planning to stretch my tempo runs to 4 miles in a couple of weeks, but no longer than that. Does that sound sensible (as I am only targeting a 10k race at the moment) or could I stretch it further than that do you think?
Alehouse - thanks, I want to extend the long run to 8 miles soon.
JGav - a 5k in that sort of time is 6:23 pace, which goes to show that your statement about your session earlier this week that 6:10 was '10k pace' is definitely not correct! According to Daniels' paces, off a 5k time of 19:50 your 10k pace would be about 6:40, threshold 6:50 and 6:10 would be more like 3k pace! Makes the session you did even more impressive when you consider that!
DT - sounds like some good progress, but more importantly - how did you wangle a week at home alone?!!
Sounds promising, Dr Dan!
JGav, good work. It's pretty tough dragging yourself out there right now.
A very slow 3.7 miles at recovery last night, which was very difficult to force myself out for as it was 8pm by the time I had my chance. Then a bizarre HMP tester run over lunch ahead of Sundays Bath half.
Went out for 4 miles. Warm up felt very good. Plan was circa 6.20 pace to see how it felt. This would usually yield a HR of just below 170 over 4 miles. I set off and couldn't slow myself down, however the effort didn't seem to be troubling me and my HR was low. I decided to just go with it. 4 'steady miles' at 6.10mm average with splits of 6.13, 6.10, 6.09 and 6.08 and remarkably a 165 average hr. Same run at the end of August came out at 6.25mm average for 170hr.
It was bizarre as I was essentially running at 10k pb pace but in a completely controlled fashion. At the end, there was no collapsing to my knees and gasping for air and I had considered clipping along to 10k, but had to be back at work.
Managed to get myself out last night for an 8 miler to complete February. Came in dead on 200 miles (hence why I ran 8 miles) which is my highest ever month and first time at 200 (obviously). The first 2 miles were in an easterly direction straight into the wind. I have never felt so cold running!
Mini taper now in advance of the Bath half sunday. Getting a bit edgy about the forecast as snow is now forecast both her and in Bath through Saturday night. Last time it snowed I was in good shape and lost a race opportunity. It better not happen again.
DT - I see the Newport half on Sunday has been cancelled already, so Bath must be in jeopardy too (they've even cancelled the Essex 20 on Sunday already too).
I didn't run last night after all and today looks unlikely. I might be tempted to battle through the weather, but I am still coughing loads and just a short walk to my car this morning in the freezing wind left me wheezing!