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Wind your neck in!
I do not whine!
I merely stated facts, those facts being that us blokes SUFFER with man flu, not just some trivial cold!
Did another longish run on the mill on Thursday, 7.5k (4.66miles for us old farts!)Started off very slow to warm up, and then upped the pace a little to 6mins per k (approx 10 mins a mile).Kept that steady till i'd done 3k, set the mill to a 3% incline (similar to the incline for the trowse 10k route) for the next 1k, back on the level for the next 2k, and then again 3% incline for 1k, with the last 1/2k on the level.
Was trying to simulate the route as far as possible to get used to the feel of the incline and how long it takes to run each main gradient.I intend to gradually lengthen this till i'm up to the full 10k run over the next 3 or 4 weeks.That is all dependant on my knees behaving themselves, and subject to time in my lunch breaks.
I now have a swollen knee again!, but not painfull. I've got some ideas why my right knee is swelling, and will be doing a few experiments to see if i'm right, which hopefully means i can shift that particular problem quite quickly (if i'm right !)
I'm off now to start snoring on the sofa, 3 pints of Little Sharpie (Humpty Dumpty brewery) and a Jack Daniels, followed by bacon and egg sarnies is making me rather sleepy.
Evening - long time no post! Don't worry though, I haven't been slacking quite as much on the running too!
Today I drove Mr Cheetah to Sweatshop to have his gait analysis and new trainers for Christmas - and not only did I get us AND the car there in one piece, I now have a running partner with proper shoes!
I took him and his new shoes out for a test run when we got back - he was OK with 5k last time, so I went for my 5-ish mile route. He was still alive after so I added a bit more to round it up to 10k. I beat my previous best time and finished in 00:58:42! Mr Cheetah is a bit achy now but wants to join me more often if he can walk after tonight! I'm proud of him
Not much else to report, I'm losing my voice - it was my work night out on Friday, and I'm not used to going clubbing and having to shout over the music!
Hope everyone else is doing OK and injury free - how's the knee Snails?
That's it from me, knackered to night (I blame all the wining and dining!)
Ah yes the trail shoes - I took them for their first run on Thursday, and was meaning to post a review!
They were comfy on my feet - even the one with the bunion which is what I was the most worried about.
The grip is GREAT - in my normal shoes I was going for the roughest bits of road/pavement to avoid the slippy bits - and in the trail shoes I ran on the slidy-looking bits on purpose to test the grip. I don't think I'll be slipping over with those on, so they pass the frosty pavement test!
The only problem I found with them was that my legs felt like they were working twice as hard - possibly as the soles aren't as flexible. I'd also done a fast 5 miler the night before though, so some of it could be that my legs were still tired from that. I'll try them again when I've had a night off maybe! I did 10k on Thursday, felt more like I'd done 10 miles after though!
Norfolk i know what mean about running late,its the only time i ever have to go and i wish i had chance to go earlyer.Good luck with the running club should you decide to join in the new year.
Cheetah you seem to be doing brilliantly,i know i have a long long way to go yet but i cant wait till im running 10+ miles tho for now the 5k then 10k goals are good to aim for.how long have you been into running?
Secret agent i hope your right about your knee and you can shift the pain soon.Grats on the 7.5k run
im just back from my worst run yet im gutted at how bad it went.
The wife has had plans made for tonight for ages so i decided to still go out and do it alone,i usually run at her pace but tonight i guess i ran a bit faster than im used to and it was really hard on me,We had been doing 5k with 2 60 seccond walk breaks and this week the plan was to do it with 1 walk break but tonight i got about a third of the way round and had to stop and i took the short route home doing about another 10 mins running/walkiing on the way home .
no excuses of late weekends or owt like that im simply not fit enough yet.its really disheartning but im not going to dwell too much about it i can only get better if i put the time in.
i feel i should be getting used to a pace that is a bit faster than im doing when i go out with my wife,perhaps i could follow her round on my bike while she does her run then i go alone after.i dont know any sugestions?
Quick post tonight.... was at physio today, and i'm now allowed to do two 1.5mile runs between now and next week - i'm so happy cos it feels like forever since i ran . Hope to goodness i can manage 1.5miles.
RUTG - don't be hard on yourself, i bet you just went too fast. It simply just takes time to build up the mileage you can tolerate. The best advice i got on here when i was struggling with trying to do 30mins running, was just to slow right down (even though i was always slow). Work at endurance now, and the speed will come later.
007 - that was great getting the 7.5k done, with inclines too. Hope things continue to go well for you and that your knees behave themselves.
Cheetah - i'm impressed you have initiated Mr Cheetah into the running thing...i also am not jealous at all that he can do 10k in less than an hour, and he has only just started I'm definately going to get myself some trail shoes - but i'll wait till after Christmas to see if they're reduced.
Norfolklass - do you think you'd try a marathon training plan in the New Year? I'm like you, definately need a plan to follow. It's awkward with shifts though.... could you run at lunchtime when you're working - or are you like me and only get 30 mins?
Minty - hope all is well with you. I'm sure there's alot of excitement in your house with Santa coming. Have you been out running at all?
Happy running xx
Aaargh just typed outy a long post then clicked the wrong thing and deleted it! Scuse me whilst I try to remember.....
Yaay on being able to try a couple of runs again Snails!
Poor Mr Cheetah can't walk today, I must have worn him out! I am also jealous of his 1st 10k time - he does a lot of other excercisey stuff though like karate, weights, and the cross trainer - so he was pretty fit anyway (plus he has long man-legs!)
Hi RUTG - i started running in May, from doing pretty much nothing in my whole life before that! As for your pace, I agree with Snails - it sounds like you went a bit too fast, and even though it might feel wrong you need to slow right down and concentrating on building distance and time - the speed will come later. I've found myself getting naturally faster as I've progressed without really trying - first over the shorter distances (slowing down for the longer runs) and now I can keep it up for some of the longer too - although I may have to slow down again or cut down on my mileage a bit as my knees are playing up a bit at the moment!
Keep running with your wife - she'll help you not to run too fast at the same time as you'll help her go a bit faster. Words of wisdom from Mr Cheetah here - it's like rubber bands! When he used to run he's just sprint off somewhere and knackered his knees pretty quick. Keeping pace with me enabled him to run further and it's (hopefully!) less painful. I also go a bit faster as his long man-legs mean he's normally slightly in front of me, but I have to keep up slightly to give directions (he HAS to slow down if he can't hear me to avoid getting lost hehe!)
I went to the running club tonight as I've got my driving lesson on Wednesday this week - 3.88 miles at 09:32m/m. I treated it as a recovery run! My knees get a day off tomorrow apart from my 20min morning cross-trainer session - then I've decided my long run on Wednesday won't be any further than 10k. I might try increasing the mileage again after Chrimbo - but need to remember to SLOW DOWN or my knees might fall off!
That's it from me - just noticed it's the middle of the blimmin night and bed is calling! Night all xxx
My bloody knee is misbehaving again!
I had a theory that the recent swelling could have been caused by a new knee support that was a bit tighter than the last one, and thought it may have been putting too much pressure in the knee cap causing it to get iritated and swell.OR it could have been because I did a longer than usual run, which may have been too much. So i havent run since Thursday, and the swelling went down.
Today, I used the exercise bike for 30 mins, on a light resistance setting, just to keep my legs moving.No particular stress, no impact, just gentle exercise.I am now sitting here with a swollen right knee! It is a bit stiff and aches a bit too. Looks like i'm going to have to go back to the doctor and see if he can determine whats going on.
On the up side, last day at work tomorrow , then 5 days off. Collecting my beer order on Thursday morning from the Humpty Dumpty brewery
snails its great news that your able to run again i bet your back to your best in no time.
Happy new shoes to me!!!!!! im off to test em
Update - here's a post I made in 'Just a little bit further 2011'.
RoadRunner76 wrote (see)
-Loula: All CRAC members, and anyone else who's interested is welcome in my Gym thread. I went for a run today!Summing it up: could've been better, could've been worse. The good news is I felt I could've gone for a long time, I felt good and not as though my fitness level had gone south - the bad news is I only went for about thirteen minutes. My knee wasn't playing up, it wasn't a 'twinge' as such like last time, but it was more noticeable than when I first started. So with that in mind, I thought I'd finish the length I was on (I was just running up and down a trail that runs alongside the local common) and then pack it in.I'm going to try and add a few minutes on each time out and see how it goes - hopefully it just needs 'easing' back into it. If I can still notice it after fifteen minutes or so after another week or two, I'm going back to the doctor. With any luck, I won't.I wore the running tights, an exercise vest, short running top and long running top. I was fine on the way there and during the run itself - not too hot, not too cold. Of course, the real test for that setup comes when it drops to 6 degrees or so during the day the way it's been for the past week or so. Today wasn't too bad.
-Loula: All CRAC members, and anyone else who's interested is welcome in my Gym thread.
I went for a run today!
Summing it up: could've been better, could've been worse. The good news is I felt I could've gone for a long time, I felt good and not as though my fitness level had gone south - the bad news is I only went for about thirteen minutes. My knee wasn't playing up, it wasn't a 'twinge' as such like last time, but it was more noticeable than when I first started. So with that in mind, I thought I'd finish the length I was on (I was just running up and down a trail that runs alongside the local common) and then pack it in.
I'm going to try and add a few minutes on each time out and see how it goes - hopefully it just needs 'easing' back into it. If I can still notice it after fifteen minutes or so after another week or two, I'm going back to the doctor. With any luck, I won't.
I wore the running tights, an exercise vest, short running top and long running top. I was fine on the way there and during the run itself - not too hot, not too cold. Of course, the real test for that setup comes when it drops to 6 degrees or so during the day the way it's been for the past week or so. Today wasn't too bad.
So my next run is due tomorrow. Hopefully it'll be better than it was yesterday.
Another Parkrun done this morning.Over 300 runners, in various states of fancy dress, including santas, elves, snowmen, christmas trees, and 1 grinch, in full green fur outfit! (oh, and a scooby doo as well!)Managed the run in 26.03, though i've got an occasional twinge in the knees. Just waiting to see if the right knee swells up or not.I'm sure I saw a runner who looked extremely similar to Norfolklass.Difficult to say for definate, because1, i've only ever seen the photos of NL in the half marathon2, I wasnt wearing my visual clarity enhancement apparatus (glasses for all you non-secret agents)
I did think about going over to say hello, and see if it really was NL, but didn't in the end cos if I it wasn't, it could have gone horribly wrong,
Hi, i'm secret agent, are you the woman i've been talking to on the internet for the last 6 months?No, piss off you wierdo! secret agent my arse, your just a perv! Trev, this guys bothering me!!Oi, you trying to chat up me bird or what! Sod off wierdo! (insert sounds of breaking noses and dripping blood here)I'm sure Martin Scorcese would have scripted it a bit better than me, but you get the picture! So Norfolklass, was it you or not?
@Norfolklass: It didn't. During the cardio warmup for yesterday's Total Trainer session, my damned knee started playing up. The warmup hardly puts any pressure on the knee at all - your arms do most of the work, but it still set it off - four minutes in, it started hurting. So, I'm going to go back to the doctor's and see about getting some sort of physio. It helped with my shoulder problem, so I hope it'll do the same for this knee. No injury for the best part of two years - making up for it now! I don't think running on this would be a good idea right now.
I didn't want to 'hibernate' over the winter, but the way things are going I might have to regardless.
Just wanted to say hope you are all having a lovely day. I've been rubbish and haven't run since the Buxton 5K , so sorry for my absence, but I will be back this week! Has been crazy finishing off Christmas present projects for the kids, but my evenings will be my own again so going out for a run in the next few days. Bit worried that I'll be back to square one, but we'll see.
Anyway, Happy Christmas to you all!
Hello all, merry cristmas.
My knees are behaving reasonably well at the moment. There has been only slight puffiness above the right knee cap since the parkrun on saturday, but that has gone down very quickly. A little bit of discomfort/irritation in the right knee, but nothing much to worry about.Been taking ibuprofen over the last 48 hours anyway for neck pain (if its not one thing, its another!) which will have helped with the swelling anyway.
Feel immensly fat right now, having a rather full belly having consumed nibbles, a prawn in garlic and ginger starter, roast pork veg and stuff, and now cheese n biscuits for tea.My beer has run out , just drawn off the last pint
Might have to speak to Jack Daniels and see if he can help me out.
My daughter and boyfriend are staying tonight. They were both given all in one pyjamas by his parents as a gift this year! His is a devil complete with tail and horns ROTFPMSL.I'd post a photo, but the poor lad still has to live and work in this town!
Hi everyone and MERRY CHRISTMAS a bit late!
We went to my parents' place for Christmas, and they live pretty much in the middle of the Wyre Forest with lots of nice trails nearby - so I packed my trail shoes and took advantage!
Mr Cheetah came with me on Christmas day - I had my santa hat on and he was wearing the tiger paws i got him for Christmas, so a couple of cars beeped us! Once we got off-road I'm pleased to report we got well and truly LOST and didn't find the viewpointy place we were aiming for - and ended up with evil hills instead! But we still managed 3.6 miles before Christmas dinner!
Today I wasn't planning to go for a run at all - but I sort of realised where we went wrong with the directions before, and really wanted to try it anyway - Mr Cheetah didn't join me for this one but I really enjoyed it! i went the right way, then decided to try a few interesting looking forest paths to make it a bit longer and see where they went (I figured i could always turn back if I felt a bit TOO lost!) I managed 4 miles - 9:59m/m according to the Garmin which I'm quite proud of due to the fact I had to jump over fallen trees and slink past random brambles for most of it!
I enjoyed my forest running so much that I have now entered that scary looking race I mentioned a while back - it's through a forest, which I now know I can do - only at night, in fancy dress, with obstacles....
Hope you are all doing well and have had a good Christmas.
I did a 'trial' run last week - it was so woeful i'm going to erase it from my memory and pretend it didn't happen (no knee pain, just couldn't run more than 5mins without a walk break). So, i'm starting out tomorrow again, it being NY Day and all that, and hopefully i'll do better.
Enjoy yourselves tonight, and Happy New Year xx
Hi Everyone! Happy New Year to you all! Hope you all had a lovely Christmas. We had a nice, relaxed one at mum and dad’s with various family. The kids really enjoyed themselves though they seem to show absolutely no interest in the whole Father Christmas thing, even though I went to the effort of putting sherry, mincepies and a carrot on the mantlepiece, and even left a stump of carrot with reindeer teethmarks for them to find in the morning, they weren’t convinced at all.
Haven’t done much running at all over the holiday. Was really psyching myself up to do a 5K tonight and managed it, quite surprisingly! I know it’s a cliché, but it’s true that so much of it is down to your attitude (injuries apart!). If I really give myself a challenge and think positively about it all day, it’s amazing what a difference it makes when I get out there. I also did it in my best time so far, 33.14, though I did pause my sportband while I popped back indoors to change tops as I was too hot, so I did have about a 30 sec break which I didn’t include. My friend is hassling me to do the parkrun, so I have agreed to have a go in a couple of weeks time. Eek!
Snails, did you go for a run today? Great news to hear that you’re running again. Must be a bit frustrating but I’m sure you’ll get back to where you were in no time.
Norfolklass – glad I’m not the only one who has slacked a bit over Christmas! I like the sound of your January challenge. It’s really motivating to sign up to something. Did you make it out for a run today? Hope you’re knees are OK. 10K is still great going though!
Cheetah – well done for running on Christmas day (whilst I was already on the sherry!). That’s very dedicated! Loving the sound of the night run, it’s crazy but I'm sure it will be great fun!
Secret Agent – glad you’re knees seem to be improving. Did you do the parkrun yesterday? Might see you there in a couple of weeks! (And don’t worry, my husband has promised not to think you are a weirdo and break your nose, as per your Martin Scorsese script!).
Roadrunner – sorry you’re knee is playing up again, good luck at the physio, hope they can do something to help.
Running up that gasbill – how are the new shoes? Sorry you had a rubbish run, and I know it’s another cliché, but everyone has days like that. It could have even been something like not drinking or eating enough that day. I remember Cheetah said that she couldn’t figure out why her Sunday runs were harder than other days, until she realised that on work days she drank a lot more water so put it down to dehydration. Have you been running since? Hope it went better for you.
Well, I’ve been decorating the kids room the past few days and I’m supposed to be doing another coat of paint on the woodwork tonight, but don’t think that’s going to happen now! Glass of wine instead I think!
Night all! xx
Aw NFL, its only the 3rd so don't depair just yet. I think some of your germs came down through my USB though cos my nose has a cold today - i don't normally get colds so maybe it'll be away tomorrow. I hope you feel well enough for your run on Friday.
Twas very stormy here last night, though much much worse for anyone in coastal areas. At Malin Head (Irelands most northerly point, there were gales up to 105mph).
I forgot to call in yesterday to say i runned my 1 mile - no walk breaks either. So, plan is, 1mile Wed, 2m Fri and 1m Sat.
Roadrunner - i shouldn't laugh at your new avatar, but it is funny. Hope the Doc can get you referred quickly for your knee.
*Joining Norfolklass and Snails in the quarantine area*
After keeping up most of my normal running/cross training over Christmas - I missed Sunday's
(hangover! ) - managed 4.2-ish miles on Monday with the running club, Mr Cheetah came cos I told him you can get free stuff when you get enough stamps. I was doing 9:34m/m so not bad, but not as fast as normal for my Monday run - probably as I kept having to stop and sneeze!
Since then my nose has gone from bad to worse and I've been up all night sneezing - it finally seems to be easing up a bit though, so I've postponed my long run til tomorrow.
I did TRY to go tonight - got about 2 minutes down the road with the cold wind slapping the rain into my face, and figured it wouldn't help my precarious recovery. Tomorrow the weather looks better - less wind and no rain, plus I should be a bit healthier to start off with by then!
Norfolklass - I have also signed up for the January mileage challenge - I'm not much of a threat to you southerners at the moment though! I logged my measly Monday run - have you SEEN the top of the leaderboard?
Snails - well done on the mile! Great that you can run again, hopefully with no dodgykneeitis!
Roadrunner - hope you get a physio referral, they'll probably know what they're talking about more than the GP (from experience I find alot of GPs PRETEND and make stuff up hehe!).
Minty - big well done on your 5k time - that's great! Every time I see your festive name I crave, erm... mince pies and baileys! (With liberal helpings of brandy sauce on the pies...)
Oooo and speaking of Christmas - Mr Cheetah got me THESE ! Nothing to do with running, but I love them - I already have the black ones and have wanted the purple ones for AAAAGES but they stopped doing them by the time I could afford them! Hope Santa was as kind to everyone else!
Happy running and anti-man-flu vibes to everyone xxx
I am so right back to the beginning with the old running cos i didn't do any for so long, and also cos i'm now afraid in case the knee flares up again, so i'm taking it really easy. I have went out four days this week and done just one mile each time, and next week i'll add another half mile in on one day. I'm thinking that before, when i was doing the four days, i sometimes did three in a row and i think that probably didn't help my knee. So, i'm going to make sure i get a rest day in between, and never do more than two in a row. Its really lovely though to be back out again, i actually really missed it.
Norfolklass - 10K is still brilliant, and its better to ease yourself back into it anyway. Glad your germs are better. Mine only lasted about two days - i have the constitution of a horse i think. Well done for doing the January challenge. If i was running properly i'd like to have done that. Don't know what team i'd have been on, probably Northern cos i'm NI, and i also love gravy on chips .
Cheetah - hope you're feeling better now too. Your speed has really picked up now, very impressive - i never ever have been able to sustain under a 10m/m. In fact every mile this week has been around 11.30m/m. I love your noo shoes too. Its great Mr Cheetah is still running with you too.
Minty - woo hoo on the 5K time. Thats brilliant you are going to do the Parkrun too. I definitely agree with you that alot of achieving your running goal is psychological. If i go out with the thought 'i'll never do this', then i generally don't. I think thats what happened last week when i had to walk so much. Haven't had to stop this week.
Roadrunner - hope you've got your physio referral and that it won't be too long before you get to see someone. Its so frustrating when you want to get a run done but can't. I still ice my knee every day, cos i'm worried it'll get sore again.
RUTGB - well have you got your noo trainers broken in yet? Hope you and your wife have been able to get out for a run since New Year. Did you slow your pace down any if you've run on your own? Just wondering if it made any difference for you.
Secret Agent (though i do prefer typing 007) - how has your knee been behaving? That was a great Parkrun time you did before Christmas, and i did laugh at your 'imagined' dialogue and fight with Norfolklass and her hubby . Have you been able to do Parkrun since?
Hope everyone has a good week,xx
Evening - I managed my long run in the end last Thursday - 10 very slow miles as it was still very windy and somehow most of my route was AGAINST the wind! (if only it had blown me up the hills....). I wasn't that bothered about speed though, I just wanted to see if I could still do 10 miles after a couple of week not going over 7 - glad I did!
I decided to carry on with my Friday run as normal despite it being the day after the long one - and a strange thing happened! i did just over 5 miles, and the first 4 miles HURT, my legs were all wobbly afer the long run and I was struggling to go downhill let alone UP - but then the last mile felt GREAT, and I didn't hurt at all afterwards, or the next day! Maybe it cured me!
Mr Cheetah joined me last night - 5.54miles, not a great run for me (the 15 miles in two days probably caught up with me)
Then as it's the running club on Wednesday this week (a nice flat 5 mile route so hoping for a bit of speed) - I did this week's long run tonight. It was GREAT! 9.29 miles and I loved every minute of it - I could have gone further but thought I'd better not push my luck. I managed 10:13m/m too so I haven't slowed down loads as I feared! My legs feel OK so far too - so as long as I stick to my rest day tomorrow I'm up for a good run on Wednesday I hope!
The germs have all gone too - they didn't get much further than my nose so I had a lucky escape there!
Norfolklass- let me know how you get on with the knee exercises - mine have been playing up in a similar sort of way. I made myself limit my long runs to 10k for a couple of weeks (it wasn't that hard over Christmas hehe!) and my knees seem better for now. If not I have a feeling my health insurance may cover a physio session or two so worth a shot!
Snails - great to hear you're still managing a few runs even if it's not as far as you'd like! I think 3 days in a row would probably kill my legs and I'd need a week off - so that's very sensible (I normally do 2 in a row - although last week doing two lots of two in a row was bad enough!)
Everyone else - hope you're injury-free and germ-free!
Off to treat myself to a rum and ginger now as a reward for a good run! Night all xxx