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people ask me that but every week it increased the more long runs I did but would vary from 20 miles to 40? i had a look at the marathion index and the ultimate marathon plan for sub 4:30 looks good, but i cant access it as I am not subscribed, any chance any body can send to me firstname.lastname@example.org
Gazelle and Teknik - thanks for info re the book, It has appeared lots of times in front of me on amazon in the 'recommendations'. Looks like the kind of book I would enjoy reading even if the plans might be a bit advanced for me this time round (oh, does that mean I am already planning more than one?), so I have ordered it. I am using the Hal Higdon novice plan this time round - seems about the right level for me.
My ankle seems to be on the mend so hopefully by New year I will be starting to build up some mileage again. I am planning a new year's day run along the side of the trent - nice soft muddy ground to run on so should be a bit better for the ankle than road running. Meanwhile, I have been using the holidays to put some cross training in at the gym - even did spinning which really gave my quads a workout so may keep that up once a week as cross training. I have found that bike work seems to stretch out my calves nicely as well.
Xmas is cancelled in Spoons's house wrote (see)
I've never managed to follow a plan myself. I get bored easy......
I'm going for my first marathonat the end of April ths year. Aiming for 4 hours.
Housekeeping: added Franners, Young Cowboy, Daytime runner, Ai Lyn Tan, Running Tortoise and Mon's NYC
08-Jan 5 Tarns VinterMaraton (Denmark) Gobi22-Jan Gloucester 50k Gobi29-Jan 05-Feb 10-Feb Quadzilla day 2 Gobi12-Feb 19-Feb 25-Feb Belvoir Challenge Spoons04-Mar Barry 40m Gobi11-Mar 18-Mar Rome Cjay8525-Mar 01-Apr Sussex Mathschick01-Apr South Downs HopetoFinish01-Apr Santiago Liam349408-Apr 15-Apr Brighton Holly Liz, AGF, VikW, Dan Ellingworth, Solent Runner, Claire C, Luca79, Pete the Plod, Franners15-Apr Paris Roof gimp, Kaz, Ai Lyn Tan22-Apr London Jason D, Spoons, Fiona C, No Pain, Ratzer. Minni. HopetoFinish, Brizo, Pete Tizard, Muppley, Gazelle!! I wish, Running Tortoise, Daytime Runner29-Apr Manchester Rob Kilby. Em Scott, GazOC29-Apr Milton Keynes Teknik06-May North Dorset Tim Lebbon07-May Belfast Chicaboo
13-May Halstead 19-May White Peak 20-May Windermere Rachael20-May Copenhagen Mon, 20-May Cardiff Ultra Jason d27-May Edinburgh Bodytalk, Mitiog, Jennie McC03-Jun 10-Jun 17-Jun Poppyline Spoons24-Jun 01-Jul Lakeland Trails Tim Lebbon08-Jul 15-Jul Fairland Valley 50k Spoons22-Jul 29-Jul 05-Aug 12-Aug 19-Aug 26-Aug 02-Sep Wolverhampton? SleepyCat02-Sep High Peak Ultra 40m? Spoons09-Sep Nottingham? Mathschick. Bacchus Marathon16-Sep 23-Sep New Forest30-Sep Loch Ness kaz, young cowboy30-Sep Berlin ToffeeLiz, Ian Boyd07-Oct Chester Compo, Jason D, GazOC07-Oct Chicago Fiona C14-Oct 21-Oct Abingdon AGF, HopetoFinish27-Oct Snowdon Jason D28-Oct 29-Oct Dublin No Pain, Ian Boyd
06-Nov New York: Mon
Teknik- simple mistake- don't be so hard on yourself. Think you've done a cracking job!
R32- Don't see how running 20m a week helps prepare you to run 26.2 in one go Even 40 which was your top end seems very light
Recovery run for me today 8.03m at 8.23 av RIDICULOUSLY windy!!!
Lol... Teknik- thanks. I'm sure it will get corrected. I would do it myself but no idea how to without it coming up as a quote...
Recovery 10k for me at 5min20/ km. Well... ended up a bit fast for a recovery... I blame the wind.
Still not 100% clear on the 'general aerobic' pace in P&D. Looking at the heart rate prescribed it should be almost slower than your long run or closer to the slower end of the range. Would you say this is correct? Or do you run it more according to how you feel on the day?
oh oh Mon: Recovery at goal pace plus less than a minute for a Recovery run? I know you were trying to hide it by switching to km, but can you feel Gobi's stare burning the back of your neck?
Jason- so it's basically a recovery pace just over a longer distance... . Seems sooo slow.
Teknik- I know, I know. Guilty as charged. It's just that at the moment it's all a bit all over the shop with no real structure to my running so I get carried away sometimes. Not as much as I used to. I'm sure as soon as I start the schedule just the thought of all those hard sessions will slow me right down on recovery days.
By the way- have you actually experienced Gobi's stare? What is it like?
Mon: the virtual one is admonishment enough. If we keep posting rubbish he might not even notice...
AGF: you're still ahead of my mileage. Same goal too. Keep plodding
Teknik wrote (se
At the end is one of the training schedules in the book, but it's the longer one (ie 55 to 70 miles per week) that Mon and GazOC are doing. The 40 to 55 mile schedule in the book has the same long runs, but one more rest day and lower mileage on the other 5 days (for lightweights like me and Gazelle).
Hey Teknik, were not lightweights! we just cant fit all of our cross training in with the higher mileage
Wouldn't it be great if someone could let me know what speed I should be running the different sessions in the P&D plan if I'm aiming for a sub 3.30 finish. I'm with Mon77 and think some of the paces are quite slow. I have worked out that General aerobic run will be 9.15-10mm.
Thanks. I'd got a vague memory that you put some kind of limit on what to do for a long run.
Gazelle & R32,
Hi & welcome to the thread.
I'm another one in the low mileage camp however given this year's posts that won't surprise you.
Well done with everyone's training.
Mon77 wrote (see)
Gazelle!! I wish wrote (see)
I'm not in the high mileage bracket either; of 20 weeks, only 3 are less than 30 and 3 more than 40. but this is a first "I just want to survive" attempt, not a time busting effort. I'll save that for the next one
I like having a plan that I can tick off ech run on, record pace etc. Appeals to the OCD in me.
Longest run to date this weeked, 16 miles. Going to be brave and try taking gels with me, just to see how they go down. Would rather do it Sunday, when the in-laws are here, but looks like it'll be saturday!
I had huge problems with gels and ended up with chocolate covered Kendal Mint Cake and plain water.
HY4 - Kendal mint cake I bought a bar to take as emergency rations when I did my DofE walks as a teenager. It came back after each walk and went back in the cupboard. There was no way I was going to need to resort to emergency rations if it was that!
Not that gels taste much better, if I'm honest
TomS wrote (see)
Kaz have a look at this one, not too far from Marple, off road and flattish, really nice and friendly White Peak marafills up quickly.
Kaz have a look at this one, not too far from Marple, off road and flattish, really nice and friendly White Peak mara
fills up quickly.
Kaz...spookily there is a slot for the White Peak on the Race List with no-one's name on it....
Welcome to running tortoise
Gazelle : LOL. I'd forgotten about the huge amounts of X-training with which I fill my otherwise empty life...
Xmas is cancelled in spoon's house: Hi thanks for response. I've been running for about 18 months, have just done my first very hilly 10k race in 57 mins and so am quite a plodder! I haven't done a marathon or half marathon before - am I mad?!
Any help/ideas gratefully received!
Tom - Thanx but its only a month after Paris and don't think i'll be recovered enough for it!! always next year.
10 miles for me tonight with 7 at 7.09 average, a bit faster than intended blaming the fact that there is no wind here tonight for once...... and I had to get home to pack spurred me on.
All ready to go tomorrow, departure is at 5.45am and the ferry leaves at 6.30, hopefully reach the in-laws by 2.30pm and then I'll escape...................