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Brighton - 1st Marathon - want to get as close to 3:30 as poss - really looking forward to the challenge.
A bit confused on marathon training programmes - so far have I read about:
- high mileage programs running 6 out of 7 days- the FIRST program (3 days a week - tempo / sprints / long run)- Run / Walk / Run school of thought
What do you guys reckon?!!! Thanks
LC, I agree with Minni. Could also be 5 out of 7 days but 3 days does not seem enough for 3:30.
Luke it might be an idea to start increasing your weekly mileage a bit more now to help build a good base.
The three day a week schedule does look tempting but it doesn't work for most. Every run is hard and unless you're used to this you run the risk of injury. In my opinion you also need to be doing some pretty intensive cross training.
I tried followed it roughly a few years ago and couldn't hit the required paces and even though I was cycling along side this just wasn't enough.
Minni / Spoon - thought it sounded too good to be true! In what scenarios would it work effectively though? If you already have an excellent level of fitness??
Would you advise pushing mileage and dropping pace for all of my runs or just my long Sunday run?
Luke I'm not sure because I don't personally know anyone who has achieved it. However, there is a thread over on the Spring Marathon page where people have followed the plan and its worked. I don't know who started the thread.....
What pace are you running at the moment for your training runs? Just now you want to be building a base and not worrying about any speed.
Minni not sure how to calculate in to miles per minute but it takes me about 55minutes to cover just over six miles
rachael leach wrote (see)
Might sound daft but I'm only up to six miles at most because I cant run "slowly" not that Im super fast but I always seem to do the same speed, and can't slow down because then I feel I need to walk! How can I make myself slow down?
Hi Rachel, I think its a mindset thing. In the early days you need to have a mindset of "today I am going to run for an hour at the slowest speed I can go" or think " Today I am going to run for an hour and get back feeling the freshest I possibly can"
If you do this you will run slower. you may need to remind yourself every minute.
However if you do this enough you will find that on other runs you can run / will have the energy aerobic capacity to run faster than the speed that you currently run at. Your body will be better rested and better prepared to run faster. Sound sweird - but worked for me.....
Edinburgh marathon for me.... happy just to finish, put 6 hours on my entry but would like 5 1/2 or there about... cant imagine managing to jog for 5 and a bit hours but suppose the training starts now!! I have been jogging since August so a complete beginner. Starting to push my effort up Tue 7.3, Wed 8.5, Fri 5.6 and today managed a slow 11.5 (1hr 58!!), I am finding it hard work, but these forums are helping. I really want to achieve this so fingers crossed for uninterrupted training! I am not getting any younger (41) Have I bitten off more than I can chew...?? Hope not!!
Hi Minni today went well. I managed to slow down abit and felt like I could have gone a bit further at the end of the run today rather than my usual "can't take another step" feeling! I have a rest day planned tomorrow, but Tuesday the plan says to do 5miles. Consisting of 1mile jog, then 2x 1.5 miles fast ending with another 1 mile jog. Think I might struggle with my pacing again on this! I went shopping today and was looking at Garmins, does anyone use them and are they well worth the money? Although Im hoping Santa will treat me!! Hows everyone else coming along?
Jennie, no, you've not bitten off more than you can chew. If you're up to 11 miles, you're already well into the distances that the training plans start - and you won't be doing that for at least another month yet! Keep on getting used to distances above 10 miles, and try to extend the mid week runs so that you've got that habit formed early.
I'll be turning 40 just prior to my 1st marathon next year, so if I can do it, so can you!
PB in a half today, under 2:20 (by 2 seconds, but under is under, regardless of margin). Which suggests I should be training for nearer 5 hours than 5.5. Golly, that's mighty quick (for me!)
Rachel, I ran for a number of years without a garmin, but decided that I'd get one this year. Had it a few months now and I love it! With a passion!! I'm completely the world's worst at judging pace, but this keeps me on track and gives me solid feedback on pace. And it goves it WHILE you're running, no waiting until the end and the clock to tell you that you were too fast or slow. There's something about the data that means you can't hide from it, and I like that almost brutal honesty from it. I went for the 205, as it does everything I need, but I'm completely in love with it. Used it today, and ran just the most excellently paced race (imho, obviously!) First negative split EVER, and finished like an express train! (I've had a glass or two of rather good red, so you might want to ratchet back the enthusiasm a bit)
Helen - Well thats a definate plus 1 for garmin then. The one Im looking at is the 305 because I cycle aswell but I suppose I can just use the bike computer for most of the stuff I do on the bike. Its abit of a mine field choosing the right one! Well done on the PB, nothing better than seeing a visiable improvement is there!
Pete - Hi there are a few people on this thread new to marathons so I think it will be a learning curve for some of us, and this thread should be good motivation and a place to ping back and forth some ideas!