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I'm probably in the other camp in the amount I drink (I am excluding wine here because that is stratospheric, and unhelpful) about 4 litres of water and 8 enormous cups of green tea a day. Yes, I spend most of my time in the loo, but don't always need to stop in a race, I think it's sometimes a mental thing, after stopping in London and another marathon I told myself I wasn't going to again and didn't even in the longer trail events. As Carrot says, you don't tend to be desperate when you finish either.
Gosh, what a long post about going to the loo.
The race start was delayed so did keep us standing there for 50 mins... Difficult for warm ups. Hence the tight hamstring otherwise I thought very sub 3:40 was defo on, plus it was my first time
Anyway here to learn. Good circuit completed already, lots of good running exercises in it, box jumps, lunges with fit ball, squats with sand bags, amongst others.. finished off with mountain running on trx freedom trainer.
Running club tonight so hills / intervals
I ran 3 marathons last year and was only planning on two this year but it's likely going to be 3 again. Nothing compared to some of the runners here mind!
Love the pee discussion on this thread, start as we mean to go on, no subject is off limits.
Laurence
Carrot- keep thinking positive and you will smash your target.
Scuba Trooper- Oh yeah I now see ref mileage, it was late last night
Why do you need to see the physio? You did say no subject is off limits!
Mon77- 3 miles today will post up in a mo.
What have you all been up to today?
Have not been up to much yet but planning 9 miles home tonight with 4-5 @ tempo. Still coughing a bit but otherwise feel fine and can't wait to get back out there. Don't remember the last time I didn't run for 4 days (don't count my pathetic effort on Sunday). Must've been after the last marathon
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Have a good one Gazelle.
3 mile recovery run for me today:
3 miles@ 9:37, 9:38, 9:39
Total time- 29:00mins
Avg Hr - 136bpm
I ran the above in the rain
It was slower than I would normally run. My legs still feel fine after yesterdays 13 miles. In fact it doesn't feel like I ran today, no aches anywhere. It was quite hard work holding back on the pace.
Need to check out an 8mile route for tomorrow. I feel like a full time runner
OK be honest, you're in mile 24, bang on target, running 7:59's, and you need to go:
Vote below:
Wee yourself
Mr Puffy
Go to the toilet and miss your target:
Mr Puffy great question but can any of us really answer it honestly while sat comfortable in front of a computer. Even if you wanted to could you really manage it while running at that pace. Could also lead to blisters from wet feet. Nasty thoughts.
Perhaps this is the moment for some words of wisdom from Shaggy.
Gazelle- I like it- forum police
Mr Puffy...mile 24? I think I would hold or wee myself. No way I would go to the toilet
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Truly a hard one,
glory 
....................or shame 
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I think, and I have no date to back up this claim but I would hold on as long as phsically possible and beyond that.....................................................................................................?
Who could say.
Gazelle, nice controlled recovery run today,
The idea for these runs is to act purely as recovery between the harder sessions that you do, Indeed you might feel as though you could have run more and some schedules will have you doing , 4 or 5 miles and yes you could do that, but the effects what be counter productive when you come to your quality session tomorrow.
Glad to see you feel like a full time runner now.
I do hope so, it all adds to the fun.
Well, my tempo didn't quite work out. Did a couple of miles @ 7:40, 7:50 and had to slow down, it just wasn't in me. I checked my heart rate after I got home and it was all over the place, a lot higher than normal, almost hitting my maximum during those 2 miles @ LT. That's not good. Obviously not fully recovered. Probably shouldn't have rushed into tempo on the first proper run after the illness... That's how you learn...
Anyway, I'm not too upset. The main thing is that I'm back up and running and feeling good and hopefully will get back to normal this week and pick up some speed.
8.5 miles in the end @ average of 8:40. 12 miles easy planned for tomorrow.
I hate being sick.
Mon 77 - Yes I feel 5 miles is too long for a recovery run,
Look at what each run/session is in your schedule for ..........................................................?
Some are key sessions and these should be the main focus of your training week and are the ones that really will have a bigger impact on your training outcome SO TRY NOT TO MISS THOSE ONES.
Others like recovery runs are short and do what it says on the tin.
Others are General Aerobic and help to develop your aerobic capacity and as you get fitter your ability to increase the volume and load in the key sessions increases, but the recovery would not.
Key sessions tend to be specific, so if training for a marathon then long runs, threshold runs and marathon paced runs are key.
10k training would be more specific to speed , so more interval training, threshold runs, shorter long runs and perhaps other runnning form work.
5k training would be very specific with short fast speedwork...... Ouch.
hope that helps a bit.
I have felt good all week then after posting that all is fine ect, I now feel so tired, note to self "must go to bed by 10.30 tonight" all these 11pm nights are catching up with me!
Scuba Trooper- where are you on Mr Puffys list??? Glory or shame???
Mon77- We all come back too quickly when were ill. 8.5miles is still a good distance to cover, take it esy tomorrow on your 12 miles.
Gazelle - well done with the above, I can look after the schedulling and giving you advice,
you look after the running and you.
Also you will find on cutback weeks that this is a common feeling , you have put in 4 -5 weeks of progressively harder work and that is why you need to take a easier break, but you will feel better next week though.
Also the buzz of being selected for this might just be wearing off a little now
But training hard next week will do wonders for you.
Hope the buzz doesn't wear off too much. Glad its a common feeling and not just me then, i was imaging mon77 spreading her germs over to me
Just checked the weather for Sunday's mock race and it is saying snow
(not sure what this face is but...) will have to see what speed I would need to go on the dredmill!
You never did say Shaggy but do you like your new name of Master Shaggy??????
Gazelle - I guess I will answer to most names but I will go with whatever, after all this is your thread.
Don`t fret over sunday, we are flexible and will look at things as they become important.
I sound like the teachers pet, early bedtime, orange juice for vitamin c
I couldn't find any races close by and would like to know where I am fitness wise so I'm going to run 6.2 miles at the quickest speed possible.
It would be less than 20 minutes to the finish line, I'd just hold it in
Gazelle I feel tired most of the time
I can sleep anywhere, I even dozed off standing up once (although I was pretty jetlagged and disorientated at the time) I have a section on my training log spreadsheet of treadmill conversions from KPH to MM if you want me to email you it, just PM me your address.
carrot- pm on its way to you
On the Paris thread a couple of years ago we had the Bristol Stool Chart, that's a laugh!
I went out with an hour to fill tonight while Puffy Junior coached football, I was still feeling tired so I eschewed the speed session in my plan and decided on 1 mile warm up, 6 miles at 8mm and a mile cool down. It was hard work, and I flet like I had to put in too much effort, so next time I race I will have an extra day's rest.
does anyone else use SportTracks? I've got some four years of data now so when I have a lees than satisfactory run, I can look back and see what I was doing this time last year or whenever. In 2011, I hadn't done any longer runs at mara pace at this point, so I don't feel too disheartened