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This is completely messing with my mind now....I need to do a slightly longer mp stint than 2 miles as I have all my race day kit with me and plan to do it in my race trainers, which I am about to add in my anti blister pads and therefore need to make sure they are comfortable. What if I did 5 miles at mp sunday afternoon and just did an easy 8 today? I wont have time after parkrun as we are doing a child handover at 9.45 so my wife can take my daughter to a party.
Parkrun@MP in full race gear including warm up and cool down will take you to over 5 miles?
Or is a parkrun PB attack crucial to your build-up?
not really, just my schedule has 3 miles at 'fast tempo' this week, which is pretty much 5k pace. I am also endeavouring to replicate my build up from last year which did include a 10k on sunday, reps last night, 8 at mp tonight and a parkrun pb attack Saturday.
Nice option Tommy. What i really need with one of these is either good timing round a Man Utd game, or some work excuse to be up there. Haven't quite found that mix yet. The first one almost works, Friday night with a Sunday 12pm United game. But can't work as i'm driving a pal up from home. So doubt he'd want to hang about for a day and a half up north before hand!
I was quite re-assured how Saturday felt, with a fairly tough course on a warm day after a 100mile drive, so am hungry to get stuck into some races. Will probably do 3 weeks of good training now, and then lose my sh!T a little going mad in May
Good luck in your half, Pete! It will be fine. Remember, the first ten are for pacing, the last three for racing. Expect those ones to feel a bit uncomfortable. Focus on overtaking the unwary.
My hospital appt was interesting. They finally had the results of the MRI that radiology seemed to have lost somehow. Those results seem to indicate a partial high grade tear of the ACL rather than full rupture as they can see some intact fibres. Luckily the meniscus is intact. MCL is normal. High grade sprain of the LCL and extensive bone bruising on the tibial plateau. It may still require surgery or what is left may give me enough function with the physio to avoid surgery. They're sending me to the gym for 6 weeks (on top of my regular physio) to work on muscle strength to then see where we are. I'm cleared for cycling, walking as much as the knee allows and a trial of "jogging" on flat surfaces! Which to be honest I've been too afraid to try as yet. It has only had a few episodes of mild giving way so they seem to think stability is reasonable and it might be giving way because of how wasted that quad muscle now is (even with the physio). My calf muscles both sides have dramatically shrunk as well! So, now in the market for a cheap gym membership and a return to running plan. (And some bravery)
I guess this should be good news but googling seems to suggest that partial tears are in reality quite rare and a lot of radiologists don't like to go out on a limb and proclaim a full rupture on the MRI which then go on to be confirmed under arthoscopy. It just seems weird that two separate experts were convinced it was fully gone given the laxity in the knee. But I see the consultant again in 6 weeks so just have to wait and see how the rehab goes.
Anyway, will be in London for spectating purposes next weekend so look out for me! Hopefully somewhere around Greenwich at approx 7 miles in I think?
McF - Crikey that makes my shin/hip troubles seem utterly trivial ! But it does sounds like great news (avoiding surgery). I can totally see your reticence in trying to do stuff on something partially broken/partially healing. Good luck and fingers crossed I'll be able to give you a wave in a week or so.
Sorry to hear of the other injured folk, must be immensely frustrating after a long training campaign.
Re parkruns, I have always done an all-out one the week before a marathon. It's good to do something short and intensely unpleasant I find, to mentally prepare for the last few miles of the marathon (as in the following internal conversation: does this hurt as much as the last half mile of the parkrun? No? Well suck it up and don't be shit.). I don't think it'll affect anyone a week later, especially with it being a very relaxed taper week.
So here's a stupid question. Obviously I haven't run a right lot and I am v slow, but I've managed a few double digit runs the last couple of weeks and am considering starting but almost certainly not finishing the marathon. Nothing to lose, really, as I have times that will qualify me to enter next year whatever happens. Is this a stupid idea? I just kind of can't bear the idea of missing out on the atmosphere and the race prep, and I'd want to do a decent length run at the weekend anyway - but on the other hand, I can't really conceive of the idea of planning a DNF and it sounds potentially a bit stupid. I would probably set off slowly, duck out about halfway, get the tube to the end to meet Mr Mad and have a thoroughly nice time - but can't get it out of my head that a) I might get tempted to do something silly and try to finish and b) it's just generally a silly thing to do. Any thoughts?
Sounds promising McF, glad you'll be back running imminently.
Madbee - Presumably you can just remove your chip before the start and be a DNS rather than a DNF, might help with any potential temptation to finish. If you do wear the chip and duck out, just be careful not to get too close to the finish when you get there and accidentally set a new world record.
Nice little confidence booster DT.
Good luck at parkrun Muddy, although that's a hell of a lot of training for a 5k!
That sounds reasonably positive, MCF.
Madbee, on paper that sounds like utter madness, but then i've never been pregnant. My main concern would be you run it easy, decide to keep going over tower bridge, find yourself in Canary Wharf, run a bit further, then think its only 5 miles to the finish and I quite want to medal and goody bag so that I can show my child that I carried her around.
I will be parkrunning. Feel pretty good today and only have to contend with a sports massage and a rest day tomorrow, and conditions look decent.
Muddy, are you going to Canon Hill or AV?
Some bad news for me though. A routine blood pressure test at the GP's produced very high readings. She wanted to start me on tablets immediately. I asked if I could monitor bp and think about it over the weekend before deciding. She agreed to this but was very firm in saying that I should not race a half marathon tomorrow so don't bother stalking my result: it will be DNS.
Parkrun well, DT, muddy and anyone else going for it. Enjoy your long weekends
I did a seemingly marathon effort run at lunchtime in 35 mins covering around 5.7 miles. But my watch crashed when I pressed Save and seems to have taken all activity history with it (including the one I had just done) so I am unable to glean av. heart rate for pace stats as that pace seems ridiculously quick for marathon effort over a hilly route.
I have no expertise on running long distances with a bun in the oven Madbee, but must say I'm tempted to take up the Fifis offer.
Is everyone on the thread going to wear their mental 'elf headband ?
Pete, really sorry to hear that. I am bemused as your training looks great and you would think would act to reduce the bp. I guess the GP wasn't persuaded by heart rate stats ? Always best to listen to doctors though - I hope whatever it going on is quickly sorted out.
Pete, that's frustrating news
Good luck parkrunners for tomorrow. I'm going to pootle round my local one I think, it's helpful to run with other people as motivation as much as anything. I keep putting off running on my own because, well, I don't have to. And it's not very motivating being slow.
DT, Muddy and Lou (great 5k PB!) sound like the big 3 for next week with supporting performances from Lit (happy birthday) and Madbee (mad by name.....). I think T'Dan is also running but not really sure what shape you are in.
McFlooze it sounds like you have no choice but to put yourself in the hands of the experts and hope that your particular expert knows their stuff. Fingers crossed and encouraging that you are at least able to exercise.
Pete - if she had a white tunic on with those metal poppers then I have a theory - fingers crossed it's just a blip reading but the timing is shit.
I don't have any fingers left to cross so I'll disappear again now - good luck to the many parkrunners tomorrow.
Cheers, Skinny
Skinny - the problem is you never seem to see the same expert twice. Or the top expert! The first time I saw the actual Consultant, the next time the registrar, this time some kind of Clinical Specialist (whatever that is). I won't get to see the head honcho consultant again for another 6 weeks.
Madbee - as somebody who has been through three pregnancies I am going to be the lone voice of dissent and say that personally I wouldn't. I think the temptation to carry on will be strong, and you will be running well back in the pack meaning the risk of tripping etc will be higher than normal. And lastly, which is the clincher for me, is that at this stage in your pregnancy the hormone relaxin will be starting to have an effect. You'll find that all of your joints start to become looser and much more injury prone. It's very easy to feel fine and like superwoman one day and overdo it and do yourself some serious damage. I somehow crocked my pelvis carrying my middle one and for the rest of the pregnancy I could hardly walk at old lady pace, never mind do anything more strenuous. I think it's a bit of a pointless risk to be honest. You might be ok, you might not. To be honest I think the risk to the baby is completely negligible, it's more the risk to you and what you will gain from doing it vs what you will lose by not doing it. If you do decide to do it be really overly cautious with your nutrition and hydration as you don't want your blood sugars dropping too much and be prepared to put your ego to the side and take walk breaks from time to time.
18.59 on watch today, probably rounded up to 19. Slightly annoying not to quite squeeze a pb (18.59) but faster than this weekend last year so mentally I neeeded that.
Good parkpunning DT. 'Better than last year' was all I was looking for in recent race performances, so bodes well for Sunday.
I've developed a bit of sniffle over the last couple of days, Satsumas and echinacea (not echiniodea) are on the shopping list; suggestions for other miracle cold cures will be welcome.
Muddy - I might wear the mental 'elf headband - Very worthy cause, plus sweat in in my eyes has been bothering me a bit recently, so I've been considering an headband anyway. I know you're not supposed to try anything new on raceday, but I figure I can bin it if it becomes detrimental in any way.
I ran parkrun in 17.15 for 3rd place at Arrow Valley on Saturday. The pace came as a real shock to the system and I was grunting and groaning from about 1 mile in. My watch malfunctioned and zapped the records so I have no idea whether I executed the run poorly or not.
Only 7 miles yesterday as I felt quite tired but that made it a 44 mile week roughly. Possibly a bit much for taper (though I did have the previous week off).
Sorry to hear about the BP issues and half marathon Pete. Can I tempt you with Glasgow half in October? It'll be the right length this time.
Active manuka honey, Lou. My mum claims it works, so I would never argue with that.
I took Fifi (who is panicking a bit) out for a nice easy run on Sat, with a couple of miles at marathon pace just to prove she can do it. It is going to be AMAZING.
I take Echinacea twice daily as a matter of course, as well as a barocca. Touch wood as I say this but I've not had any cold symptoms since last summer. Lots of sleep where possible, Lou. I managed 9.5 hours last night which is a new pb whilst having both kids here.
Few easy runs this week including 3 at MP midweek. Easy 9.5 yesterday felt good. Couple of physio sessions through the week as well.
Tommy breaking through the 19 mins barrier at parkrun - woohoo
Lou smashing through the 18 minute barrier with a 16 second PB
Lit is now older than she was and would be a veteran in England but everyone in Scotland is gnarled and wrinkly as a result of the constant cold and wind.