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P&D Autumn Marathon Training Thread
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Good luck Tiny! Really looking forward to hgearing how you get on.
I might be doing the same Phil. Not so much a question of my legs which feel fine now... but getting the opportunity, now that my family think they've got Dad back after the marathon malarky!
Shazmo... fair advice for Tiny. My experience is different, perhaps why I have the different perspective. I thought 4 hours might just be possible in my first marathon... but I thought 4:10 was more realistic.
I still went a bit faster than that to give myself a chance... but as I chatted to people, they still advised to hold back. At 20 miles, I was about 2.5 minutes off 4hr pace, feeling strong and just went for it...ran relentlessly to the finish but missed 4hrs by under 30 seconds. I'd left a bit too much to do by being conservative. So I got scarred the other way!
It just sounds like Tiny has 3-40 in those legs... but chasing it does run the small risk of a major blow out... and I suppose it's down to a combination of mindset, conditions and how she feels on the day. It's always a tough decision... but the main point I'm making is that if you want your best time, you need to decide from the off... because whilst going out too quickly is suicide, you can't go out too slow because you can't make much up, once it's lost. As it's a first marathon, a bit of extra conservatism would be fair enough.
Good luck Phil!
I think that, if you have followed P&D by the book, you should be looking at no more than couple of minutes' variation in finishing time. Your later MP training sessions will let you know exactly what you are capable of.
Plan the run, run the plan!
Good luck Tiny
Ran the cross country conservatively and then found I had a sprint finish in my legs over the last 100m. Boy did I enjoy that!
Hope you managed to run Runny Knows. The weather was actually fantastic.
NN - I have sacro-ilitis and an upset IT band but right up at my hip instead of knee. Haven't run since june.
shazmo - I am indeed and my picture is in the book.
Weather spot on for Tiny over in York I think.
Fiona - I need to remember to hunt out your pic in Guiness book of records next time I'm in Smiths/Waterstones.
No running for me this weekend. Keeping weekends running free at the moment. Lots of long walks with the dog though. Ran about 30mi this week...
So...I'm not allowed to broadcast her times I guess...but 10k done and going well.
COME ON TINY!
20k...she's speeding up! Got to go out now...bit hard to explain to family I want to stay here to track someone I know virtually running in yorkshire marathon.
Despite what she was saying yesterday...looks like she's being fairly aggressive with her early pace and targetting 3.40 or quicker. Best of luck to her. Wish I was there really...missed out on york as sold out in a few days.
Halfway. Going very well.
That's what I would have done too but didn't want to tell her to do! Hopefully she's just feeling really enthusiastic and now she's halfway there she'll feel if she can keep it up.
Meanwhile I managed a 20 minute run in between 5 minute powerwalks. Back to normal running next week though.
ha, 15W, you're missing the most exciting bit! Not that it's the best or most 'live' tracker I've ever used, I must say. GO TINY!!!
Wow! Very impressive negative split by Tiny. She must be made up.
I've just been for a 12 miler - my last long run before Dublin next week. Twas tough! I'm not sure how I'm going to trot round 26 miles next weekend. Can't say I'm looking forward to it
I believed your prediction Shazmo! Also, last long run before a marathon is meant to be shit. It'll be fine.
Aaaw, I'm chuffed for Tiny
Storming run from Tiny
, well done!
Shazmo hopefully the atmosphere in Dublin will give you an extra boost - I feel really unprepared too, which is daft as I've stuck to P&D and never run so much in my life. I tried to hit marathon pace for one mile in my long run this morning and was no where near it.
I think you're both massive sandbaggers just like Tiny.
Velloo - it will be different on race day. Stop worrying. Same with you Shazmo.
Yes we should take comfort from Tiny's great performance
Anyway, I will stop moaning and bask in Tiny's glory
Vello, are you doing Dublin? Forgive me but my memory is shot to pieces and I don't know where the list has gone!
I think Velloo is doing Nice.
Look forward to reading your race report Tiny, brilliant result!
Yep it's Nice
Great news Tiny... look forward to the race report.
Edit... Phil... no I didn't run the cross country. I was in the garden with my little toddler and decided she was too cute to leave, having been training so much in recent weeks. I suppose that makes me not a real runner
BUT... I did go out last night after dark and for a 5 miler, with 3 at tempo pace. I just uploaded by Garmin data just now, and see I was doing 7:15, when I honestly guessed I was doing 7:50. This is good news, I guess. I really feel like my threshold pace has improved, but will see how things go over the next month.
RK - it may have been your last chance this year to enjoy some decent weather in the garden with your toddler so I don't blame you.
Actually I find doing runs in the evening hard work mentally so you must be a real runner