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enthosophytes - I have not heard of them in the knee but heel spurs are another example and which are fairly common.
At least you have a diagnosis - the tricky bit will be in getting a treatment plan that works and doesn't just rely upon "rest" as the only option. Have you ever had a definitive injury to your affected knee?
Anyone who reaches our/your age will have some "mild degenerative change in the knee joints". I could have written that bit before your x-ray! I really don't believe it signifies anything untoward
Hope it goes well for you when you do get an orthopedic appointment and you get some proper advice and treatment
Welshpoppy
gosh you are having a bad time of it. You need to get clear of those bugs before winter comes!
W.Poppy - still just edges my total ! - hope the lurgy is soon gone . . . .
Dave
that will show it - running 10K
Pity you missed out on the tempo sessions..........................
It may actually be the bony bit that catches a nerve or muscle fibre that causes the pain when driving
Went to very Covid secure dentist this morning after running 3 miles in 29:56 with avHR 128and a max of 140.
Not really enough time between taking meds and running but got it done - boy was it chilly out early on with a light grass frost apparent on the lawns.
Should have had a long sleeved top on................
Can't comment on the x-ray, Birch! Just hope that this leads to some answers; perhaps a way to reduce the fluid?
You should have had two long sleeved tops on, plus tracksters, gloves etc, TS!
Yesterday was a fairly gentle 48 minutes with my M75 neighbour. I was glad of the company: leg didn't really want to play although they did in the end! If I had been on my own I suspect that I would have cut it short. Yesterday also saw long sleeves, rain jacket, trackster, gloves. Today I ditched the jacket as the plan was something quicker, in spite of the rain. Fortunately the latter blew over part way through my 15 minute warm up. Then 3 x 3 mins with 90 seconds with a jog recovery that ended up as a walk! Worked hard, although didn't cover as much ground as I had hoped: set off too quickly on the first rep, windy, cinders, spent all morning on feet etc etc! All about the effort at this stage!
Hope the meds work, WP!
Just as a footnote to my lunatic cross fit challenge thing, I managed it in 38.44 which I know is meaningless. The second mile was hard after what preceded it.
Well done, I think. Out of pure curiosity, what was the motive, objective in doing this?
TS,
Frost, no I am not ready for that yet, still a good run from you.
Dave,
10k or the time it takes to do 10k is a challenge for a dodgy knee. Not much wrong with your motivation.
WP,
Get yourself fixed asap, those Welsh hills are calling.
I have been busy these last few days moving boxes with light fixtures to the new house, at least I don't have to fit them. It is surprising how many light fixtures are in a house and how big the boxes are that they come in.
The house is full of trades finishing things off, not too much social distancing being observed.
Traditionally basements are dedicated as the "Man's Cave" and when I went down there yesterday to see how things were progressing I was interrogated by a group of contractors as to what I was going to do with all the 2100 sq ft. When I pointed out where my full size snooker table was going and the large screen tv for football games, I was immediately interrupted with a question, "SHE's going to let you have a new large screen tv!!!!!
The weather is a bit cooler here today but still a comfortable run in shorts.
Ran to the GP's this morning to get my flu jab: got wet.
Short run this pm: got wetter.
I have mainly been walking with the odd run here and there. Very hard to step up to running from walking but I'm still trying. Managed 14 km this morning - very slow - I remember when I could run 14 miles in the same time! Never mind - I am moving.
Good to see all the same people still ticking along - well done everyone.
NZC Lovely to hear from you and that the Roturua marathon went ahead.At least you are out doing your best.It is so difficult this year.
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
same here, WP - watching "elite only" coverage - excellent analysis (not least re the "shoe debate" ), from Mara Yamauchi . . .
later I'm doing the final 10K of a friend's virtual VLM
Dave
good to see you have got your priorities firmly established in the new house
alehouse
be interested to hear whether you have any reaction in your arm to the flu jab. Have heard of several fok who have ended up with a stiff muscle for some days afterwards.
NZC
Hi stranger
From mainly walking to 14K is a big jump - not surprised the time was a bit off
Dave
I saw several folk out doing their virtual marathon this morning - one group had even rigged up their own finishing line complete with flags and balloons on one of the paths I use. I gave each one a thumbs up and a few words of encouragement as I passed them ( they were going in the opposite direction in case you were wondering!!)
Welshpoppy
easy now................
John
of course......................
Despite rain almost everywhere I went out into watery sunshine and a pleasant enough morning.
Took a turn for the worse when I met up with an old running friend (old as in time - he is about 20 years younger than me) in the first mile so of course I had to up my pace to keep up for the 3 miles we ran together
Left me a bit knackered but I managed to get home in one piece having done 5.15 miles in 50:54 (9:53m/m) with avHR 132 and a max of 146 so it probably did me some good having to stretch myself a bit
Torque:Sound like a great run getting everything flowing out of comfort zone.
I managed a slow 4 miles in the storm glad I was not running further.
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
Glad you got out, WP. Weather not too bad here, despite the forecast.
Hope the last few miles of the marathon go well, with your support, Birch!
And well "raced" TS!
I'm glad it was London marathon day today: if it hadn't have been I probably wouldn't have hit 50k this week: if x can run 42k I should be able to manage a quarter of that...
alehouse - you keep churning out the solid weeks (I think there's a phrase for this)
WP - good effort braving the storm . . . .
Mick - your "cave" appeals . . no room for a snooker table here, but I do have a reasonably sized TV, which came in handy - Elite Women yesterday morn, recording of Elite Men yesterday eve'g, then this morn recording of MOTD2 (scores not known, so an astonishing couple of games there). The "virtual VLM" went well - there were 4 laps of with a "mini-lap" to finish - the main lap came out shorter than expected, so I ended up doing best part of 8 miles to complete the distance. Well organised, no more than 6 runners in total on each lap - must say, a nice feeling being applauded whilst trotting along at 11:30 pace
legs felt pretty stiff as I reclined watching EK's "bad day", but surprisingly "ok" this morn.
No run today, but a 6 mile round walk to son's house and back planned.
Dave
storm?? The sun always shines in Yorkshire
In fact I had just popped down to make a cup of hot choccie and there was Simon Calder on the TV extolling the weather on his sunny visit to Harrogate
Alehouse
50K looks so much more impressive than its imperial equivalent but still a very good total on a regular basis.
Dave
8 miles - you deserved a round of applause after your recent tribulations.
Very strange footie results all round - remarkable really the turnaround in some teams. I hadn't seen the results either and watched with some incredulity as scores mounted.
Has to be said Lamela (?) should be banned for life for that dive and Shaw should have been a straight red.
What slipped under the radar a bit was Leicester ( sorry alehouse!) getting beat at home by West Ham who had looked so terrible only a couple of weeks ago
It must be awful having an off day and running a 2:08 marathon!
The reaction to yesterday's run was pretty much as expected - although the legs felt fine there was no energy in them after a couple of miles - so ended up doing 4 miles in 41:40 (10:23m/m) with avHR 125 and a max of 136
aaaahh well something to build on maybe...
It is good to hear that you are surviving down there in the colonies.
TS,
It is always good to run with a friend but they do seem to make the run harder. I have a run with the boys tomorrow so I may rest today to be prepared as we are running hills again.
Dave,
A 12 mile walk, it could be a tough recovery.
WP,
I am not sure who gets more rain you or Alehouse. It is raining here today so no sunshine for me.
I ran a comfortable 7k yesterday in shorts and a t-shirt. The cold weather is said to be on its way. The trees seem to know and the leaves are all brilliant reds and golds and carpeting the trails.
MrsMIck6 is off in Toronto for the week helping out the toddler so I am doing the bachelor thing.
Mick
Dave: 8 miles with your knee is progress :-) Hope knee behaves today but i see you are walking to son's and not driving.
Torque:Yorkshire must be the Sunshine capital:-) Well done on run and low HR
I got up and ran same route 4 miles again but RHR is high I am just hoping it drops.Av HR 149 which is lower than yesterday by 1 beat!
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
I think Dave was walking 6 miles in total not 12!
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
4.2 miles for me as well av HR is dropping 146 today.It was my PA injection and flu jab one in each arm.I can say that your arm aches with flu jab.....
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
not too much colour on the trees here other than the horse chestnuts which all appear to have suffered from the summer drought and have wilted a lot!!
Nice run for you
Welshpoppy
that HR remains stubbornly high - you are still hosting something but 2 x 4 miles is good going
Dave
a chatty trot - can't be bad. Long sleeves and gloves?!!
Another Hash trail this morning so good to run over strange ground.
However I had back to back teleconference calls so it was an early start and it was still dark out there at 0715 so rather difficult to read the map!!
4 miles done with avHR 119 and a max of 140 on a big hill in 42:36 (10:43m/m) which was okay as I was trying and not succeeding to read the map early on!
Stiff arm from the flu jab appears to be a common problem
Have decided not to go to the uni fitness suite as it is right in the middle of the student accommodation: the very area that has the highest infection rate in the country; have managed to book some sessions at the private hospital gym though, so off there later.
Chatty four miles sounds good, Birch!
Sounds like a fun run, map-reading in the dark apart, TS!
Most unusually my arm felt fine after Saturday's flu jab, WP. Even wondered if the nurse had actually done it!
Edit: WP wrote that "Most Elites would have DNF it just shows his attitude and commitment". The cynic in me thinks that part of his contract and therefore fee required EP to finish!
TS,
There's dedication for you, running in the dark trying to read a map. Are you too embarrassed to tell us you did a face plant or ran into a tree?
Dave,
Social runs are a great way to enjoy your running unless they are like my group whereby half way I am hanging on with no breath to talk only listen.
The flu jabs are not available here yet, another couple of weeks to go.
The colour of the maple trees here are a major tourist attraction, the reds are breathtaking.
A tough hill run today 8.7k in shorts and t-shirt, still relatively warm, 14c.
Tomorrow's run with the boys will at least be on the flat.
With MrsMick6 in the big TO I have too much time on my hands, so I wrote some simple python scripts that accessed my running database going back 16 years. It then accessed the Google Elevation API for corrected elevation which my training log absorbed with the following top ten hill analysis.
This includes runs all around the world but lo and behold the toughest hill run I did was in my home town of Marlow. The run was a 20k through the Chilterns and if any of you know that area you know what those hills are like. The Chelsea mentioned is in the Gatineau HIlls not London.
Mick
I suspect your cynicism is well founded but 2:08 for "not trying" is still pretty good going!
Mick
yup - too much time on your hands
The terrain in the UK often throws up unexpected hills - as I found out in Norfolk recently!! I suspect its because the geology/geography changes in relatively short distances compared to a lot of other areas in the world - hence hills!
No face plant or tree trunk embracing I'll have you know - the white stick came in handy!!
Bad day at the office today - really carp run with no energy in the legs at all- 4 miles in 44 min with avHR 116 and with two fairly long walk breaks despite low HR tells its own tale
Another 4 miler today faster pace so all going in right direction RHR is up and down like a yoyo but 47 still 7 beats up.
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
Hope you continue to go in the right direction, WP...and that you are soon back on track, TS!
Part 1 of step 8 of my 16 step speed plan today, with part 2 already banked! 25 minutes warm up, 7 x 30 seconds uphill with one minute jog back recovery, 10 minutes warm down, curtailing the warm down as it started to rain despite the dry forecast. All off road: lots of puddles and the cinder paths are getting much softer, including today's hill.
Why should thousands of $s be paid out to get elites to come and do a training pace run. If they want to come at their own expense and compete for modest prize money fine. In the major events in Ottawa, large sums are paid out to attract the elites but no recognition is given to the age group winners, no medal no prizes. No world records are going to be set here and I have been told that a certain group of elites agree beforehand on sharing the prize money and they only do enough to make sure one of them wins.
Sorry WP but it is a pet peeve.
An enjoyable run around a neighbourhood town with the boys. A comfortable 17c, no rain and 6.75k done on a nice flat course.
Mick