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Hamo - sadly the rumours were true. I feel for you as you need a quality race after all your training. Goodwood is similar set up to the event you mention.......there was talk of a marathon at wrexham for sub 2.40 folks on a closed cct to give fast folks a quality race, but they said its only if vlm was off. So it depends if wrexham see vlm as on or off after ydays announcement. Might be worth some investigation?
6m easy today. Im off to FoD in a mo (ill give SQ a wave, jools is away).
Great news Hamo, im pleased its still on. I saw Matt Rees referencing it too, hopefully there'll be a quality field for you.
hamo, I'll keep my fingers crossed for Galway. There's a small company putting on a marathon around Dorney Lake in October - almost tempting, but I don't much like laps. I've the Richmond 10K in four weeks so I'm quite tempted to focus on speed for a bit (once it stops being so bloody hot). Of course, there are my niggles to think about too.
Decent MLR pace for the weather.
AWC, that's my thought too. I'd fall into the slower runner category and a 16 miler takes me close to three hours at easy pace - I need to be able to run for an hour longer than that to finish a marathon at race pace, so a slow 16 miler is not going to prepare me for time on feet, let alone time on feet at pace.
By the way, not jealous at all, you lucky bugger.
TR - Good(wood) luck!
Very much not enjoying the weather so far. Yesterday morning when I got up my flat was 24 degrees and built up to 28.4 by bedtime. It only lost a degree overnight with the window wide open so today's starting point is 27.4 so it'll likely be over 30 tonight, and will stay that way for the next week. Misery.
I didn't run yesterday - I did go out for an early walk and it was actually quite fresh, so it would have been nice to run, but my body needed rest.
Today's conditions were much less satisfactory - nearly 23 degrees at 6am and very humid. I kept to recovery pace and legs actually didn't feel terrible (although the achilles and high hammy are noticeable) so I did some strides in the last mile and they felt OK.
Tomorrow looks to be the same sort of temperature/humidity so I may not do a long run - I will see how awful I feel after sleeping in 30 degrees.
SQ - hope tomorrow goes well and the thread homework helps. Im by the river severn (Newnham), been on wye way from eagles nest to chepstow and back today, to try to keep in the shade........Dorney can get windy (as can Goodwood though).
Ran 8m this morning.
Cal - hope you can grab some respite from the heat. They have asked runners not to touch the feet of King Leonadis which seems sensible enough.
I lost about 10lbs in yesterday’s mid day 15m. I was going to post before and after feet on scales photos on Strava but noticed the scales were quite reflective which revealed a rather unpleasant silhouette .
A guy from my club is currently battling through NDW 100 - don't envy him that. I bet the runners are glad the sun's going down (not that it's going to cool down much tonight, but still).
SQ - good luck, must be exciting to be back racing.
Steve - keen to hear how you get on with Hanson’s. Although the LRs are shorter aren’t they done at MP? Or maybe one of the other runs in the week is at MP so you get plenty of miles at that pace compared to P&D
Cal - good to read your run descriptions again.
Glad to say Sam, the guy from mine and Joe's club, came third in the NDW100. That must have been absolutely brutal. The long time leader dropped out not too far from the end - I guess it must have been an injury or heat stroke as you wouldn't relinquish a lead for something minor, I'd have though.
Joe also managed to find a race - he and Katie did the Runthrough Tatton Park 10K in Manchester. Joe came 15th in 35:51and Katie was 2nd lady in 39:22.
As the results coordinator for the club, it'll be nice to have some actual race results to relay this week rather than just the Virtual parkrun League I set up.
Today I decided to explore as far as Hackbridge - the park there is actually really nice. Then I popped into Wilderness Island (a little nature reserve off the Wandle which only has one entrance so there's no way through, just in and around and back the way you came) on the way back as I was curious. It's mostly trees and narrow trails and I had to slow right down as I didn't want to roll my damn ankle again on the tree roots.
Came back via Mitcham Common. That common is so confusing due to the fact it's in sections due to the roads that go through it, and one section looks much like another. Went the wrong way again but at least I knew where I was from the last time I went the wrong way (twat). Had to take it easy through the common, too, as it's bloody lumpy and quite hard to run on in places. Pace picked up once I got back on pavements again but the last few miles felt pretty laboured. It was getting warmer so I was thankful there was actually a breeze as I was going up Streatham Hill.
Anyway, that brings me to 52 miles for the week, which is my first 50+ since the groin injury in June.
Tomorrow will be a rest - I've booked the gym for 9:30 and will probably do a walk at some point, but no more than three miles.
John - cracking view that, good news on the fitness lift.
Cal - good run and week that.
I saw folks with numbers on running through the high street at Tintern this morning (Rogue Run ?), was that your race SQ?
Did 10m early.
I am thinking about Dorney - the issues are my injuries/niggles and the fact it's only 8 weeks and I've not been training with a marathon in mind. (Well, not keen on laps either, but I'd rather do a lapped marathon than no marathon. Anyway...)
John - Robin Hood starts in a village called South Wheatley, and broadly 20m south-west then two 30 mil loops, taking in Retford area, Clumber Park, Major Oak, sort of area then back.
Nice race report SQ. Good result too even if a podium was taken away! Not an easy course to overtake on in a lot of places.
NE - sounds like great day Sunday, excellent rime on feet.
8m early for me today.
NE, that's a bloody long run, good job.
TR, well done on getting 8 done.
Over 30 degrees in my room last night and it'll be the same today if not worse since it's only down to 28 now. I'm somehow managing to sleep a bit but I've had to be strict with myself about not taking an afternoon nap so I'm tired at bedtime.
Got out for 6 this morning and the humidity was so bad I wasn't sure if I was doing a run or a swim. Groin gave me a good twinge during the first mile but I jabbed it with my finger and it stopped. Not sure if that actually released something or if it was psychological. Achilles wasn't great either - I don't think the ankle roll on Sunday helped much. But hey ho, the rest of the run was OK considering the conditions.
Gym again later.
Macca - That's a lot of water loss in 15 miles!!
SQ - Top racing and placing.
Cal - Nice long run.
John - Superb views. Yes, Hansons have a midweek MP run of upto 10 miles, but with no marathon on the horizon, I've cut those down to 6 miles max. Nice long run.
8 miles on Friday (instead of a rest day), 15 miles on Saturday then rest on Sunday for a 48 mile week. 10 miles today with 4*1.2km reps with 400m recoveries. Reps were 4:30/37/36/26, was 18c at 4:30am!! Super hot and humid, but got it done.
NE - as said above great time on feet, I’ll have to dig that film out for a laugh, I can recall that scene.
SQ - great to read about a race, it must have been even better to partake (that said I’ve really enjoyed my virtual ones). Sounds like a great route to run and a strong run especially with the back to car warm down.
Steve - nice reps in the heat/humidity. It’ll be interesting to see how you get on with the mmmm bop plan, even if no marathon planned.
TR - well done on logging the miles, I think an easier week will do wonders, not that there was any sign you needed it.
Cal - I think that lad is running Spartathlon too. With that level of water intake it’s a fine line between being hydrated and making yourself sick. I noticed my HR was about 15bpm higher than expected during the heat. Well done on the run/swim.
Logged some decent miles here in the midday heat these last few days. The local trails are surprisingly empty at midday in 30c + .
TR...I seen someone (can't mind his name at all) on twitter asking London Marathon to consider his time of 2.18 for entry, so the "slowest" mens time has to be faster than that. Nice running as usual, I'm sure the legs are feeling better for a few easier days? Hope you are having a nice break?
Macca...That would have been a Strava Faux pas alright
John...Class photo, looks beautiful and as SQ says, bound to beat the treadmill. Good news that your feeling fitter again.
Joe...Excellent work by you, and more even better by Katie, congrats. Cheers for keeping us up to date Cal.
NE...Lovely long tun. 31 miles is a long way, no wonder you where knackered by the end of it. The fact that the 100 miler is 2 loops (give or take) will help with logistics of feed/aid carrying etc for you i'd imagine?
SQ...Mighty running, well done, bound to have been nice to get back to racing? That is a brutal introduction of a 1st mile, sounds like a lovely setting for a race though all the same. If it helps your decision with Dorney, my mindset is/would be, race when you can at the minute (and give it full beans every time, no tactical s**t
Steve...Lovely reps, quick esp in that heat and humidity.
Saturday was a 10 mile GA in glorious weather, one of those runs when you just enjoy yourself. Sunday was my planned "long run" of 16 miles as it was a cut back week, but as a fella from the club came down to run with me again, we ended up running near 18 miles all at MP +10 pace give or take, with an average of 6.13 min miles over the distance (faster than i'd planned but was nice to spin the wheels with company), which finished my week on 88 miles.
Double 6's as recoveries yesterday started off my biggest week of the plan. Top tip though, running, even a recovery run, in the evening after spending all day stuffing your face with popcorn, birthday cake, 3 course dinners (cheers BoJo
10 mile with 10x100 strides in the last mile this morning, 94% humidity apparently and felt it, like Cal i think i swam home
hamo - I'm missing my popcorn - I pop my own on the stove but the weather's made it too hot to cook (as it raises the temp in my flat even more). Can't play games on my PC either as that makes it very hot and the last thing I need is a bloody heater in my room. Boredom is a real issue until it cools down.
Final LT session this morning - 6:45/mi avg for the 7 miles which is around HM PB pace so the training block has worked well. Big week of mileage finishing with 22mi on Sunday and then taper a bit for the half next week
Macca - you are probably one of the few keen to get out midday, great hot weather prep rhough. Given the choice i would rather run in the heat than in the cold, good prep for cooler autumn uk maras.
Hamo - getting plenty of walking in the contryside in so my legs are groaning (lots of time on feet and hills though). Your club sounds good sending you a long run mate again. Interesting re vlm, i guess they have an allocated amount of places and then go lower down the rankings until they are full. Depends how many overseas they invite i guess.
Good work AWC, what sort of time do you think youll be aiming for at Goodwood ? Any more news on wether they think its a go-er?
8m early.
Anyway, I've thrown my hat into the Dorney ring. God help me.
Macca: this weather is great training for Spartathlon. Make the most of it!
I must day I’m enjoying the holiday weather of a bit of sun and high teens temps compared to my mates back home on the south coast sweltering in 30+ degrees. Sounds hideous!
I did repeat the Wandle section, which was my fastest mile at 8:52 (faster than MP) but I was ready to stop then. I began a cool-down mile and I didn't feel great - very tired and almost a bit spaced out. I was quite ready to quit after that mile but when it came in, it was still quite fast (9:53 which is what I'd term steady pace rather than easy) so I decided to slow down further and give it another mile, especially as I was still a good way from home. Unfortunately, that last mile was mostly uphill so I was far from recovered when I stopped and I walked a further mile to cool-down properly.
I know I don't use a proper HR monitor, but my watch does seem to be quite consistent and it was hitting high 170s for the last four miles (including the two cool-down miles) with a peak of 185. No wonder I didn't feel great at the end! Just as well I walked another mile to allow it come down again. Heat, dehydration and lack of sleep will have all had an effect here so I'm not worried, but it is quite interesting that my HR goes a lot higher than almost every formula thinks it should.
AWC...Excellent LT session, the 7 mile block is a tough tough run, mentally and physically, and you smashed it. Training block certainly has worked well, i reckon you can trouble that pb alright. Many about the track?
TR...Walking in the countryside, bliss. Well done on still getting the runs in beside it too, cause as you say hiking can really drain the legs.
15 for me this morning all roughly +20 pace with the last mile (ish) kicked down to MP (ish)