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26 year old male, ran this years FLM in 3.38 on the back of a total of 250 miles from Xmas onwards. If i train properly do i have a chance of a sub 3 this year or FLM '06
Andy
5km 77%
10km 76%
10 miles 77%
1/2m 77%
marathon 77%
"Proper training" for me meant 620 miles twixt Christmas and FLM, I guess Hilly exceeded 1000 in the same period.
(Mind you I was talking to a chap recently who is 15+ minutes faster than me at the HM, and does it off 25 mpw. The toad.)
I think blisters is right though in that you should try and get your 10k and half marathon times down to sub 40 and 1:24. I live in hope!:o)
First 10k PB attempt for me this coming Wed evening. Haven't got a clue what to expect, as I've done no real speed work apart from a few strides since London. Will just have to be patient and see how I feel.
Andy, here are some race time predictions for M26 2:59:59.
I don't see why you can't do it. You'll need to put in lots of miles to realise your potential. My suggestion is to build a solid base from now. Lots of steady miles. If you try to hit your 10k and HM targets too soon you may find your training won't translate into your goal marathon performance.
Just my thoughts anyway. I'm no expert and somebody with more experience may come along with some better advice.
Good luck!
aaaarrrghhh......i've just put my 5k time trial (3 weeks before flm) into the calculator and i should easily have broken 3hours!!!
my conclusion is that peaking at 7 weeks of 65 miles is not sufficient endurance training...back to the drawing board
if only i was 26 again....plan endurance training early and avoid injury....significant progress will happen....aim for 38 minutes 10k or 84 minutes hm by october.....good luck!
I know that my best event will be the marathon and I want to run one. Current pb for 10 miles is 1:00:42, which was my first 10 miler and since then my endurance is far stronger. I'm a 17 year old male but will be 18 in December. I want to run that marathon and think I can deal with the training for it, run a few weeks at 70-80 miles and found them fairly easy. However my coach strongly recommends that I don't, he wants me to leave it alone and only start running marathons aged 25 or older. Put in some of my recent times and they came up with a VO2 max of 63.2 and age graded 81.4%. Would i likely break 3 hours next year with the right training and would it be a good idea to try?
Any advice would be much appreciated
My first marathon is in 23 weeks, and I'm hoping my buildup will be right and I'll hit my target of 3:20 - errm sorry, just realised I shouldn't be on this thread, should I? ;-)
In my defence, if I do hit my target, my next target will only be 5 minutes or so more than 3 hours in Paris next year ...
I've gone from a 3:26, to 3:14 to 3:06 by building up to 70+ miles of easy running over 18 weeks from a base of 40 miles previous to this. That got me 3:14, then for 3:06 I already had my base at 70 miles so was able to maintain that mileage for the full 18 weeks with specific marathon speed sessions in the final 4 weeks of the training.
I personally feel anyone who follows MG's training plan won't go far wrong. It's worked for me twice and what he's told me has been pretty much spot on!
Bryn, personally I'd say your coach is right telling you to wait a few more years. I'm sure you've got more to come in the shorter distances and the extra speed you gain will be an advantage when you eventually take up the marathon. I'm no expert either!
Go ask Mike G as suggested by RA, he's very helpful and has the experience with a past of elite running.
thanks for the comments. i am absolutely clear that lots of steady miles are crucial. my problem in the past has been a very gradual build up without getting injured (previously peaking at 55 miles), which is why this year i am trying to focus as early as possible on flm 2006...
bryn, enjoy the speed of youth!!...endurance is all i have to hang on to...
I was training for FLM2005 for 3:15 and was well on target, including a hilly and snowy half in 1:25:51 (my 10K PB is 37:40). Then my knee went to buggery, perhaps due to overaccelerated training.
I'm back on the road now, with no ill effects. I'm running the Leeds Half this weekend, although it'll probably just be as a training run. The plan is to increase the mileage very gradually for the next few months and really nail my base strength. Then I can reintroduce some speed when it's necessary, or train for specific shorter races while keeping a weekend long run.
If all goes well I may enter Abingdon and aim for a GFA place, failing that I have a Golden Bond place left over from last year.
Does this sound sensible to the more experienced among you?
You're hanging out on this forum where everybody's lots older than you. Most of us are past it, in running terms. We compete for ourselves. You're a much better runner than most people here on the RW forums, and you've still got lots of time. Be patient - it's hard, I'm sure.
Why don't you set yourself some aggressive goals to achieve over the next few years? Say, 32:00 10k, 52:00 10m, and 70:00 HM? You might even start winning some local races. They would be fantastic times, and if you can get close to them then forget sub-3, go for 2:30!
gaddesby this weekend....then southend, borehamwood, dorking, dartford
these are all half marathons and should keep things ticking over...i still haven't refocused my training properly yet
base training building for high milage for abingdon and then flm 2006....or a bit of speed and strength work???....motivation is low at the moment and i still have a couple of niggles after the flm
Family situations may change plans at short notice though... we await. :-(
It wan't a PB course, but I'm confident that in my current form I could have pushed for a very low 1:2x - as it was I'm happy to treat half marathons as my long, slow runs to last me until July, when I'll commence my Berlin marathon preperations...
i may use half marathons to maintain/ gauge my fitness over the summer, but i keep changing my plans every other day...
motivation is returning!!
There are 6,500 runners and only about 1% are British, so you should be able to find me.
If you still can't spot me then as an extra clue, Dull Napoleon is an anagram of my real name.
I hope to target sub 3 but the weather forecast is looking horrendously hot, so anything better than 3.15 will keep me happy.
It's a real pity, because I think I'm in better nick now than I was for the FLM. Such is life!
I have been out for a '4-week party' since FLM; a shocking 35 miles in the bag over the past 4 weeks.
Went out to cheer some friends in the Halstead Marathon yesterday and was itching to get out there again. Will start building things up this week in anticipation of an 18 week 70mpw Pfitzinger & Douglas programme and an autumn sub-3 attempt.
In the meantime will target those 10k and Half pb's.
Happy running all ...