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Shades I think the women prefer running with club runners, I believe the only woman who is likely to get the womens world record is MAry Keitany but even she had male pacers this year. From a views perspective I prefer the two separate races especially for when the British women are running as they'll just get lost in the good male clubrunners with their 2.30-2.40 marathons.
Big G well done on getting the marathon done, although you said you felt bad stopping when the others had another lap to go, it must have been quite good mentally! PS their ir only one way to eat scones and thats with jam and then the cream.
Well done getting a run in while you were away, hope you get into a routine soon.
Cal, hope you left something in your legs for the half today! Hope you have a good race.
Ian hope no damage for the OH!
Steven holiday runs are awesome, get to see somewhere different whilst staying fit, always worth taking a small camera or a phone.
So on Friday I was complaining of a sore area by my hip, I woek up yesterday and was still grumbling but 2 miles to parkrun 2 miles back and was the 26 min pacer (25.56
Today went to start a 15 mile run, made it to 2 and a half and didnt feel right turned and slow jog back home. Going to get a tennis ball in and work on my glutes as I'm sure this is what it is, then work on the hamstrings as they are feeling a tad tight too.
I've got 4 weeks till Peterborough half, I wanted 15 miles alternate pacing today but will now try next week, have a fartlek session on tuesday at the club and track session on thursday so will see how i am before attending those. I'm considering putting off my parkrun PB attempt until the week after next, I won't go 100% out as in the mid week i have the club champs 5k race.
Robert - I agree, I think the women prefer to run with the men. But you're right, they get poor TV coverage then if they're not leading, but so do the men that are just off the front.
Hope the hip is OK, you might just have overworked the hip flexors, should settle quickly.
Rob-Great pacing at parkrun,good to stop your run if you're not feeling it.
No damage to OH,just grazed arm,got some dressings but she was ok to come for another short run last night.
Could only watch Berlin via the marathon tracker,incredible seeing his splits for each 5k.
Daughters friend came 25th in the woman's race and first non-elite and top brit so she's really happy.
Shades, I think I may have over done it with a small amount of s&c on Thursday... always knew it was bad for me.
I wonder why the race wasn't shown in the UK? shame as with Berlin there is always the chance of a world record going. Wonder if the BBC will
Getting on to the hard paths as we passed Richmond was quite a relief, and I managed an 8:47 here, but we were back on the towpath again (admittedly not quite as stony, but still rather uneven) and my pace slipped again (8:56/8:59/8:57). Still, I went through 10 miles in a hair under 1:28, which is actually a PB, so I was on track as long as I didn't blow up like I did at Maidenhead.
I know there's a 1:55 in me, but I think it'll take a much cooler day on a better surface (and preferably when I'm not recovering from several 50+ mile weeks and 21 mile long runs. For now, I'm happy to have completed my clean sweep of PBs for the year.
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Rob, sorry to hear your hip is sore. Careful with that, eh? I was out all Autumn last year with my stupid TFL, and it wasn't even damaged, just a bit angry. Maybe get a massage?
Re Berlin- Kipchoge is just amazing. Great to see the delight on his face as he finished.
Set out after watching the marathon for a 8 miler. Done it a little faster than I wanted to but I blame watching Kipchoge for that. Not that I could ever run that quick even just for a couple of miles.
Off to watch Simon Yates in the last stage of the Vuelta. Absolutely brilliant for him winning the race after his collapse in the Giro. Unbelievable that all 3 grand tours this year have been won by British riders.
Clapham Chasers had the 1st lady - amazing! (And now you might understand why there's no one slow enough to run with me on the club marathon long runs).
I've had the pleasure of seeing Paul Martelletti at a couple of parkruns (he has the course record at a few around London, including my local) and he's pretty impressive to watch. Shame about Scott Overall - I wonder what happened?
Great run on the new PB, well done on not an ideal course
Robert - Berlin switched to ballot entry so not quite so easy to get a place now. But it's a lovely course although quite crowded, much nicer race than London.
Berlin has only been on BBC TV once and with the cuts I doubt it will be on again unless we have a high profile athlete going for a record. The coverage on the link Big G put up was really good, I didn't really miss the commentary.
Scott Overall does seem to have a difficult time with a lot of his marathons
Cal - brilliant PB, well done. And a faster PB on a better course is yours if you find a suitable race. I laughed at the thought of you muttering a rude little rhyme
I think it's better to do your long runs alone, although at times you might want company. Running with others means that you rarely get to run at your pace and doing a long run alone teaches mental strength in the latter stages of a marathon.
steven - I think after watching Kipchoge it would be easy to run faster than planned, watching that sort of performance gives you a running high. Hope you have a lovely holiday.
Jelly - well done, that's a great result. I expect long term you'll be looking at doing an Ironman
Short run for me this morning, 5 miles. Only 3 short runs planned for this week then 2 days rest ready for Saturday. Strange weather, 17 degrees and 96% humidity at 5:15 when I went out for my run, back to vest again, light drizzle and very windy. Legs feel good and fresh.
Cal, thanks for that link. Your club also had someone who did very well at Comrades didn't they?
Shades, good news that you're feeling fresh this week. What strategy do you go in to for an event such as this? I guess start steady and try and fuel well, but do you have targets in advance of the event, or is it more a case of doing your best on the day?
I did 4-miles this morning and it was humid - very odd weather as Shades said. I'm leading the social club run tonight and have a route sorted that's about 5.5 miles. I haven't led one for a while but I've asked the coach coordinator to not schedule me in for the rest of the year, due to the events I have lined up.
Shades, I entered the Berlin ballot the 1st time it was a ballot 2014 I think but didn’t get a place. My mate I’ve ran a few of my races with he just pays the charity their £350 requirement for a place, he has also done 2x £1350 for London! One way of getting in I suppose
still feelin sore sore so rest day again today and probably tomorrow as well, did want to try my 1st track session on Thursday but see how I am.
one thing that has surprised me is the elevation gain at Berlin, looking at people’s Strava it’s about 1000ft!
And then there's our world record holder, Joe, who holds the record for the fastest marathon dressed as a swimmer.
Shades, yeah, I think I actually prefer to run alone, since I can get out early (club runs tend to start at 9) and plan my routes to avoid traffic stops, since I'm a bit autistic about stopping during runs. Of the two club runs I've done, one was in Richmond Park, which I sort of enjoyed until I got lost (after which it was a bit stressful, since I had to be back at the carpark by a certain time as I'd got a lift there with someone). The other went up to Hyde Park and there were a lot of busy roads to cross and a lot of traffic fumes. I didn't like that one at all. I ran alone both times too, which rather defeats the point.
I had another restless night last night - the frustrating thing was I couldn't even manage an afternoon nap despite being shattered. I must churn out a buckload of cortisol when I race. I went to hot pilates anyway and kind of dragged through the class - did all the exercises, just at a slower pace than normal. Hopefully I'll be able to nap this afternoon.
Shades, I noticed it was rather warm on my way to class, but distinctly cooler on the way back. I hope the weather cools off a bit over the next few weeks.
Berlin is on my wish list for next year,there's their own charity option for €190 I might take advantage off if I don't get in the ballot
I don't know how folk find the time to train for an Ironman, it's hard enough to train in one discipline never mind 3. My friend that did an IM this year, switched to working just 3 days a week and that was fine.
Robert - I did Berlin the last year before the ballot, entries opened at certain time and I was poised ready to enter the race as soon as I could. My boss called me into a meeting and I told him I had something urgent to do and would be 5 mins late, so managed to get my entry in first....priorities
I don't believe Strava on elevation, they really need to sort that out. Not just Strava but GPS devices. this is the race profile
Cal - yes, best to stick to those long runs alone. I used to do long runs with the Trotters and when I had my running club and at least half of those runs I came away disappointed that it wasn't really the right training session for me.
I'm sure the weather is going to cool down, once the tail end of those storms pass us by in the next couple of days I think we'll settle to 'normal' autumnal weather which I just what we want for our races.
Big G - I've pondered for a long time on race strategy for my 24 hour race, not helped by the fact that the last time I ran one was 10 years ago so can't remember what strategy I had then. But key for me is not to get a sore (acid) stomach and plan my eating very carefully and not give up! This race is slightly different in that you need a minimum distance of 100km not to be considered a DNF, my Garmin battery won't last for 24 hours so my plan is just to concentrate on eating/drinking and get to the 100km wearing my Garmin to keep me focussed. After that I will ditch the Garmin and I will probably be in survival mode to try and get as many miles done as I can. My PB is 80 miles so I'd be very happy to get past that.
I never use music when I run except in a 12 or 24 hour race. I bought a tiny MP3 player the last time I entered a 12 hour race and then the race was cancelled so never used it. Couldn't remember how to use it so had to faff around with it but all sorted now and putting a load of music on it which I'll finish doing today.
That's good news about the weather changing to what we expect for autumn.
But it's 16 degrees here now, drizzle, doesn't feel so humid but that's because it's very windy. I had a great run, I find it hard to keep the distance to 5 miles this week.
Shades, I can imagine planning what you want to do at a race like takes a lot of thought. Are you planning to rest/sleep for certain times, or are you going to play it be ear in that regard too? Also, are you thinking of eating at set times? Sorry for all the questions but it's the type of thing I'd be pondering if I was doing something like that.
Cal, I much prefer cooler weather too. When I went under 3:30 it was cold, but perfect for me. I remember I was actually shivering on the start line, but knew I'd be fine once I got going as there was no wind or rain. Others had coats on etc, but I just know that I heat up very quickly. I did have some light weight gloves on, which I find does help.
I led the social run last night. It's advertised as 5-6 miles and I had a route that I measured as 5.5 miles on MapMyRun but it ended up being just over 6 (I did loop back a couple of times). I took them up a big hill and was met with a few moans and groans, but they enjoyed it really
Rest day today.