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For the Doddle, I think there are effectively two lists - those that don't need the bus, and those that do (I would need the bus), but I'm not sure of the split so I'm not sure where I am on the "people that need the bus" list. I've heard in the past that for some reason people don't tend to really transfer their entries for LDWA events, possibly because the prices are quite cheap? This one is all managed online though so I suppose it may promote more people to go through the transfer process if they know they're not going to do the event. I have emailed the organiser to try and get a better idea of where I am.
I had a bit of a light-hearted exchange with the RD of Seaview about people doing the wrong route. It was all in good jest and no offence taken but I think I can conclude he thinks I should stop moaning. Which is fair enough
Shoulder is okay this morning after yesterday's fall. There is a small amount of grazing on the knee, but I can move it okay. There is an even smaller amount of grazing on the shin and the skin feels tight there but it's not infected or anything. I do feel a bit achey on the one side, which is probably just where I jolted myself a bit. I reckon I'll be okay if I want to do a short run tomorrow though, or I may just take another rest day. I'll play it by ear. Really I want to get to the start line of this week's Half feeling good as I want to try and get under 1:40 there, so this week was going to be less mileage anyway.
Big G-Always seems strange when people say its not a race,but give times and positions,surely that in itself makes it a race? Parkrun being the biggest example.
Glad shoulder is OK, Big G.
Shades, I think I would have died from the cuteness!
So, the bad news is my shingles patch has gone all sore and itchy again. It felt a bit itchy last week after Bikram yoga (there's a lot of lying down and then doing a sit-up between the floor-based postures, which I think irritated it because it's at the top of my butt) but it seemed to calm down again and then I did yoga again yesterday and it's been driving me nuts all afternoon. Not sure if the yoga's caused it or if it was getting itchy again and the lying down just made me notice it more. Ugh. Anyway, I don't actually feel ill so I've been out for a run. Did a progressive 6 miles (well, 5, plus a cool down): 10:30/10:10/9:38 (last year's MP)/9:23 (hopefully Yorkshire pace)/8:55 (next year?) and then the cool down was 9:45 pace, though it felt slower.
The fastest mile actually felt easier than the one before it, but the one before is slightly uphill and I was running into a wind in a couple of places.
I was going to do yoga today as well but I think it would be wise to skip it.
Not much you can do about the short cuts taken at Seaview, as it's not a race or a distance that qualifies say as a marathon what is to stop the runners going which ever way they choose. So reading between the lines I would guess most of the faster runners take the short route and that explains the good times recorded. But if you do the event again and if the weather is awful or you have a niggle you can opt for the shorter route without feeling that you've cheated in any way.
RA is strong mentally and I don't think he ever does much training, for whatever reason.
Glad you're OK after your fall, maybe just a bit of bruising perhaps.
I was kind of guessing that's what Davey's 'announcement' was going to be. I'm glad he's won the vote, not a good sign when only 70% of the club voted, just shows how little some of the the members have to do with the club. However, having read his mandate, I've no intention of re-joining especially if they adopt the Half Marathon Club into the 100MC, although I can't see that being accepted by the members. And all those tacky shirts.
Ian - no if you skip the taper your recovery time will be exactly the same post race.
Cal - yes, a bit odd about parkrun. They are adamant that they don't want parkruns to be races, that goes against their objectives, yet they've set them up on Po10 etc. They don't have race permits.
That's annoying about your shingles patch, is it possible you have developed a bit of allergy/dermatitis just at that spot and the patch is no longer caused by shingles virus. Probably aggravated by the heat/humidity we've had.
Steve - I'm not surprised you were shattered after that. Maybe next time don't fast just to see the difference? As you're not planning a marathon soon, there's not really much advantage running fasted for runs of that distance when you're training for a half.
Decided to do a longer run today,its 9 days since solway and I'll be doing NY a week after frankfurt so wanted to see how it felt.Did 16.5 miles,felt ok until about 10 but then hard,maybe went a little fast early on but didn't feel like it,was hoping to do 20 but didn't have enough energy to continue without hurting myself for the rest of the week.
Shades, to be honest having seen the email exchange with the the RD, I'd just do the shortest route now, unless he changes it to specifically put a marshal there to direct people in the right direction, or put some tape up to define the proper route. It's strange as I now remember him saying before the event that the route is either marshalled or taped most of the way, but he made a point of specifically saying that the bit into Minehead isn't marshalled or taped.
I am also not keen on Davey's proposals of potentially merging the 100 Half Marathon club with the 100 Marathon Club. Seems a bit of an odd thing to do really - 100 Half Marathons is a massive achievement in its own right and personally I think is a separate club. I'm also not keen on the all the shirt ideas. For me, the point of the 100MC is the actual vest - those colours, with that logo, and that text, mean something specific to me. I'm not interested in all the other ideas around shirts for 25, 50, 250 etc. and I wouldn't want to see the club vest messed around with. I was quite surprised that he won the election really, as I don't agree with his vision of the club around those aspects. He's obviously a really nice chap, and I like him a lot, but I don't really follow the logic of what he's set out.
Shades, you were also asking if I had run Barnstaple Marathon before, I haven't but know most of the route well. It will be a return to Marathon running for me the previous one was in 2005 although I did one as part of ironman distance in 2013. In between these dates I've ran on and off (mostly off) and only returned to regular running March this year. I'm pretty pleased that I'm back to doing 20 miles and feeling comfortable at the end.
Did a very gentle 4-miles this morning. A few aches and pains after that fall, but I don't feel that a run would have made them any worse. It felt much fresher again today, so it was a nice run out.
And unfortunately, it *is* shingles. I don't understand why it's reactivated but I spent most of yesterday with a horrendously itchy butt (the patch is at the top of my crack which makes sitting/lying rather uncomfortable to say the least.
Decided to take a rest today although I am going to go to pilates. I've run three days on the trot so I am due, even if I don't usually rest on Wednesday. I don't feel too bad beyond the sore itchy patch so I don't think I'm going to take time off or anything.
Big G - I think the main reason that parkrun isn't a race is that a race is the last thing they want. Their mission is for it to be a non competitive event encouraging new and those that think they can never take part in a such an exercise/event to join in. The bonus is that then they can have children too, I think the UKA rule is 11 years old for a 5km if it was a race. Probably a big mistake to put in on Pof10 as now many treat it like a race. As long as they have PL insurance then they don't need to worry about if the course is short/over/altered nor the many rules if the event was permitted, like first aid, number of runners and what facilities need to be provided. Plus permitting parkruns would incur extra costs and more work too.
Did you see that programme on BBC a couple of weeks ago about parkrun? Although I have no interest in ever doing a parkrun I find the concept interesting and I expected the programme to be motivating and inspirational. It wasn't, in fact it was pretty awful, partly maybe Kelly Holmes was not the right person to present it, she was dreadful.
Maybe those runners that this year took the shorter route at the Seaview have in the past had a similar discussion with the RD and now they take the shorter option. The RD can't really offer 2 distances as then 2 sets of results would be required and as it's not really a race, a bit pointless to make it so complicated.
I don't think Davey's success at being the new Chairman is anything to do with his mandate. I think it's more to do with the welfare policy which he wrote but was never implemented, the anti bullying and the hope that he is the person to stop the appalling behaviour on FB, plus he is well known and well liked.
You've still got a couple of weeks so you might get a place in the Doddle yet
Honk - I guessed the Doddle was tough, I went to school in Lyme Regis and the terrain there is as severe as the Doddle, plus I remember 100MC runners saying it was very steep and often very hot too.
That's a great comeback to marathon training, mind you if you were doing an IM that probably improves your overall fitness.
Circuits for me this morning, good class again.
I decided to sack off the pilates class - the idea of pouring myself into close fitting yoga pants was really not appealing. I could use the rest.
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
Outlaw was to be my first tri but a friend of mine encouraged me compete in a standard distance tri so i could get a feel for mass start swimming and transitions. I entered a local one to me (only 5 miles away) and enjoyed it immensely. Aside from the minor panic i had in the water where i forgot how to swim, i felt the day went well.. I did the 1500m swim in 32:58, the 26mile ride in 1:17:00 and the 10k run in 39:21. i finished in 49th place out of 109 so the top half which i was happy with.
On saturday morning we drove to Nottingham for Outlaw where we were camping over 2 nights. my nerves were pretty shot and my head was all over the place but i guess it was normal.. We set up the tent, i racked my bike and put my kit on my number and met up with some of the other pirates and spoke about how we were going to deal with a soggy course. After dinner we went back to camp and attempted to get some sleep but it was tough cause it rained all night and the nerves. My alarm went off at 4am so i got up, made some breakfast and got my wetsuit on and headed down to the start. we all gathered and at 5:50am we were allowed into the water for a 6am start. The race started and i held back a bit to let the masses go off so i could try swim in clear water but it was futile so i did the best i could even though i kept swimming into peoples feet or being hit on the head by spinning arms... The 2 laps went quite quickly and i exited the water in 1:31 which was my target time but was pulled aside to which i thought "OH SHIT AM I BEING DISQUALIFIED" to be told that due to flash flooding, the bike course was being cancelled. Needless to say we were pretty frustrated but it was the correct call with athlete safety in mind.. the marathon was to still go ahead starting a 9am in 3waves. it was a chance for me to change and get some food. At 9:15 I headed to the start and started my run at 9:20. Its a course i do know so i was able to focus on running.. considering the conditions i was happy to finish the marathon in 3:13 for a total time of 4:44 and 117th out of 925.
Not sure what my next race is yet but I might look for another tri before the end of the year..
Proof that pirates can fly...
WP - how are you? I didn't realise you did those tough off road events. You probably don't do them now after that damage you did to your achilles. I remember how long it took you to get back to running again.
I won't be at Great Welsh next year, clashes with Taunton. I am doing an event at Margam Park in September and I might do another of the Infinity Running events next year too. Have you done any of their events?
Iain - fantastic result at your IM. Nothing you can do about the weather. I'm sure you'll do another as perhaps unfinished business. I was following you on the tracker. Tremendous achievement from where you were with your swimming to a mass swim of 2.4 miles. Have you changed running clubs or gone to a tri club?
Great pic, you've still got those pink socks.
What a shame about the Great Welsh think that will be 3rd year we have missed each other. Margam Park what race is that?I just had a look is that 8th September? I see they do shorter than ultra and marathon's but the terrain would concern me but I shall keep a watch on website not one i have come across before.We were in Margam Park back in June for day out and lets say the terrain wore out OH's battery in his scooter.I hope free parking for your event as parking was £6.
How has your year been in 2019?
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
Iain, well done on the IM. Do you reckon you'll give another one a go at some point in the future?
Welshpoppy, sorry to hear about your achilles issue when you did that event!
I've had quite a good year so far running wise.
I won't be doing Newport either next year as that clashes with Connemara.
The event I'm doing at Margam Park is 22nd September. Think some is tarmac and some good trail. I had originally entered one of their events at Tredegar which was 95% tarmac, but that was cancelled due to low entries and I switched to one at Margam instead. Parking is free for runners, I think they have use of a private area as we have to use a different entrance. There is a video of the course and it doesn't look too bad, 3+miles per lap, we'll see. Maybe you fancy one of the shorter races.
Big G - glad it wasn't just me being over critical about the parkrun programme, just as well you switched off, it got worse. It was supposed to be part of bringing the communities together in a difficult area in NI. Truly bad TV.
Cal-Hope it doesn't keep you ill for long.
Very late decision to do my local 5k seaside run tonight,had no idea how it would go after 16 yesterday,and a 3 mile jog to the race,bit of a cross/tail wind for a lot of it so definitely helped,finished in 18:41,2nd fastest 5k,few guys who I best recently finished around 18:20 so hopefully I'm in decent shape again as without yesterday I'd have probably beat them.
Big_G - I've already been looking at middle distance tri's and will enter outlaw next year as i have serious unfinished business, and then I'm planning a 100 miler soonish but not sure which one.
Iain - great news about OH, 6 months to her first marathon is impressive.
That explains the pink socks, they are distinctive
Lovely morning, quite fresh, perfect running weather.
Ian, great time after a long run the day before. Shows you're in good shape.
My shoulder was quite sore last night, and I'm not really sure why as I didn't do anything particularly unusual. It's back to "normal" this morning, but as a precaution I'm taking a rest day. This week was going to be a lower mileage week in any case.
Big G, I expect it's an aftershock from your tumble. Sometimes pain takes a day or two to show up.
Ian, nice result for a last minute thing!
After doing very little yesterday (I went for a short walk, but didn't even rack up 4000 steps, very lazy!) I decided shingles wasn't going to be the boss of me so I went out and ran. Gorgeous morning and once I got going I felt fine so I ended up doing 9 miles. Shingles does make you feel a bit ropey and run-down but I feel a lot more ill when I have a cold. I felt better after the run so I'm not sorry!
I am going to keep it up for August as I am bloody minded but once I start school again there's no way I can find the time.. plus the fact that if I am planning on Cognac and La Rochelle in Novemeber I need to start proper marathon training.
I have also changed my running routes too. I got so fed up of people I knoiw passing me in cars ""encouragingly"" punching their fists in the air and shouting "Allez allez allez!!!.. plus vite plus vite plus viiiiiiite!!!!" (faster, faster faster!) that I have now taken to the back forest roads where the occasional deer I meet has thankfully no comment to make.
Anyway, that's my training news.. blanket well done to everyone for keeping up the mileage and a big well done to Iain.. looking good in that photo!
Rob - really hope you are recovering too.