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I've just read the press release re Kipchoge and this is part of it...
He is delaying his quest to complete all of the World Marathon Majors until next year as he has yet to race in New York City and Boston. Instead the 37-year-old wants to try to run another fast time on a Berlin course that is famed for its smooth, flat roads and great climate in autumn.
So maybe a last chance at another world record?
My Alphas have arrived,less than 24 hours after seeing the post saying they were on sale.
First thoughts,the last shoes were very hard to get on,these are even harder,I was hoping they were going to change it but no luck.
Edited to say I've put an old one on with a new one and I can definitely feel the different drop,really hope it stops my achilles flaring after races.
Any advice on pace for Sunday,I think I am comfortably in sub 1:30 pace if I was rested,but last week was 55 and this will be 50 so I'm unsure how much this will slow me down?
Ian - I hope these shoes resolve your post race achilles discomfort. You may be able to use the lower drop shoes for shorter races, 5k, 10k perhaps but I would suggest you don't use them at this stage of your marathon training.
I have 3 pairs of lower drop shoes and I never use them for races, on consecutive days or for any distance over 10 miles.
8 miles undulating this morning and although it felt quite fresh initially it was a very sweaty run and felt like very hard work especially on the hills. But I did manage to keep my HR down.
I'm staying in now for the rest of the day, don't like this weather.
Keith - well done. Congratulations on your promotion.
Shades wonder what the group would prefer if a law came in that you had to either half your shoe purchases or half the number of marathons, I’d choose half the marathons and find a loop hole and run ultras.
Keith congratulations on the promotion, payrise means more takeaways!!!
rcouture, looks like kipchoge is going for another record, think it’s the right thing to do, 2hrs is probably a long way off but to get into 2:00:xx would be another milestone.
Big g poor tigg, not much of a holiday having treatments.
essex 30 (33 miles)
Have considered DNS this race for a number of weeks due to back issues and not much training but thought a longer run and my first DNF would be more beneficial than a DNS.
about a 45 min drive to the start but had to stop half way and pick a bottle up and I didn’t have one. Found an independent sports shop open at 8:30 and purchased one.
arrived an hour before the start, registration simple in a village hall as there were only about 40 runners, walking in with a drawstring back with not much in it whilst others were rocking up with bags of stuff as they were running the 50/100 mile.
the course for the 30 was four laps,
3 x 8.5 miles, the first lap we walked out a mile to get closer to the race distances. Was nice to have a chat, found a few doing the 30 and someone doing the 50 and played cat and mouse for the first 30.
The course was an out and back, with a aid station at both ends, described as flat but there was some gentle inclines which most people moaned. The first mile was downhill (up hill on the way back in) but there was a 2.5 mile stretch each direction of flat trail which was good to get some easy running. A flyover climb then the aid station.
First half went well, it was warm but well shaded at times, had a bit of a wobble around 18 miles and pretty much walked it into the aid station for 2 miles had a little sit down then felt better and made my way back. Spent a bit of time at the start of the last lap ensuring had fluids and food on board before setting off,
Didn’t waste too long at the final cp as didn’t feel the need, the events are enjoyable, low key, and very supportive.
takeaway a beers tonight! Then to recover for next Sunday FVC (although haven’t entered yet)
Keith - Well done on the promotion
6 miles this morning before a day up in Oxfordshire for niece’s birthday. 10k tomorrow. Still dreading it but will have a go.
OK so I'm going to take TR's advice and go out at 1:30 pace,probably till half then see how it feels.If I'm on track for 3 in Chicago I think I need to be under or very close to 1:30 now.
Rcouture, hopefully they'll do the job!
Chose Horsham parkrun today...I had originally planned on University Parks (Oxford) but once I'd assessed costs (45-50 minutes on the tube, then an hour on the train which is £30 return, plus a bit of a walk) I decided against it. If I was going with friends and planned to have a bit of a day out in Oxford, fair enough, but for just the run...nah.
Horsham's a bit easier - an hour journey and the park's right by the station, so did that one. In winter it moves to another park that's much harder to get to so figured I'd hit this one in summer.
Park's nice but it's a three lapper and a lot more was on grass and trail than I expected. Not hilly but also not flat, so wasn't what I'd call a fast course.
There was a bit of a breeze and the clouds came across during the run so it wasn't too warm, but HR was still in the 180s after the first mile. Ran 28:27 which isn't wonderful but sleep's not been good and I am likely still recovering from the Wednesday race so I'm not going to be too hard on myself.
I've just invested in a new mobility programme and was shocked to realise I can no longer touch my toes, not to mention failing a lot of the other mobility tests. The exercises are pretty hard but hopefully will help. I'm starting to think my issues are less about health and more that I have turned into a chair-shaped person.
Well done on yesterday's ultra, that's a great result in warm conditions and a podium place too.
Best get that FVC entry in
Cal - it's not cheap this parkrun tourism, you would do proper races for the same costs.
I couldn't imagine you aren't able to touch your toes after your yoga history. But of course not being able to touch your toes is not a sign of lack of any fitness, I guess more likely as a result of your hamstring issues so your mobility plan should help.
Big G - Edinburgh is 500 miles from here!! I know as I've driven there a few times, for an ultra.
Good luck Rcouture and Ian (and OH) today, hope it's not too warm for you.
My ankle has been niggling me, not quite in the same place but had a couple of twinges yesterday and there's a very slight swelling, not sure if I did something in the gym on Friday. So rest day today, I've already done 45 miles this week. Have booked into the gym for first session today, 8 a.m. and will do upper body session. I usually do a late morning gym session but this way I'm hoping to avoid the heat. I can't leave the windows open in my flat when out, disadvantage of being on the ground floor.
cal Spose 3 laps for a parkrun means a lot of turning which slows us down? You can get some good deals on the train to Edinburgh 😆
Rcouture good luck today!
bad a pretty rough night last night, hip was a bit screamy and some made dreams which found me at the bottom of the bed 😆
crazy to think people are still running at the event yesterday doing the 100, I’m glad someone I booted out the cp went on to finish the 50’instead of dropping at 30, also a local runner is doing her 2nd attempt at a 100 miler after getting to 85 miles a couple of months ago and going dizzy. She’s at least 85 miles in.
I do have a friend who's moved up near Edinburgh...might need to plan a visit! But next few months I'm going to have to knuckle down on training.
Glad you enjoyed yourself, Big G - enjoyed seeing the photos.
Shades, I admit I've not stretched my hams in a long while, as that's the one thing you don't want to do with ham tendinopathy. I used to be able to get my hands flat on the floor. It'll come back, though.
Hope the ankle isn't anything serious.
As for me...ouch. I am very, very, very loosely basing my training on P&D, and today's long run was supposed to be 16 miles with 10 at MP. Which I knew was completely beyond me as I can just about manage a parkrun at MP, let alone 10 miles as part of the longest run I've done since Manchester Marathon. Then there's the small matter of my right SI joint being a whiny little sod and everything else on that side hurting because of it.
I settled on 16 miles with some miles a bit faster than easy pace...I was aiming for 10 minute miles but that didn't quite happen. The first one felt like it should have been 10 but was actually 40 seconds slower; the next I had to stop twice for cars, and then I managed a 9:55. I guess I'd shot my bolt with that as I then got progressively slower again until I hit 13 miles in Battersea Park. Decided to jog the remaining three back home as it was uphill and my right hip, ham and achilles were all hurting like mad.
I made it to 16, but felt like I'd run a marathon. It was that bad I even stretched when I got back. 🤣
Easy week now...partly because it's going to be in the 30s and partly because I've that 8 mile race on Sunday. I'm hoping I'll be a bit more acclimatised by then!
Robert - 'warm' is when you don't have to exert yourself so it's no big deal.
'hot' I when you have to do something despite the weather, run, work etc. 😉 and that's hard.
Respect to those doing the longer distances, especially 100 miles, this weather just makes it so much harder.
Hope that hip is OK.
Gym was nice and cool and the instructor spent some time with me showing me some TRX exercises.
It's warm here and I'm just going to make a big pan of soup. 😅
Is that a PB by 56 seconds or 56 seconds slower than your current PB?
Racing is the best speed work of all, you do plenty of long runs.
Cal - xpost earlier.
Well done, that must have been a tough run today especially in this weather. I hear others saying how hard that particular training run is so good for you giving it your best shot. Is your training MP your calculated pace based on current level of fitness, not PB or hoped for? I don't know, never read P&D.
I haven't been to Pilates for a few months but we did a lot of work on hamstring stretching so mine are OK, for now. But as you've had injuries you wouldn't have been able to do that.