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ING NEW YORK CITY MARATHON 2006
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I cant believe it.I woke up this morning with a sore achille.I've been limping all day at work.I had to take anti inflammatories to help the limp.Im not really in great pain just stiff and sore.There was no indication that there was any thing wrong yesterday only when I woke up this morning.
Looks like I will take a break from training tomorrow.
Hopefully its nothin serious but like everyone else probarbly just now, every little ache and pain you get worried about. Rowan you'll know better than i do, but watch that achilles better a few days rest now than making things worse.
Another 10 tomorrow me thinks :-(
Is everyone just getting ready now? Man, I've still got another 4lbs to lose yet damn it :-(
Pug
Just before running NY Marathon...
In the end I just sat out near central park and smoked furiously...
ROFL...
Pug
really hope everyones ijuries heal in time, i know every little twinge i get now i panic about.
Pug, runnig at that time of night, you must be marrying a saint, thats all i can say, except........... well done.
just caught up with the thread after a couple of weeks layoff. Some impressive stuff there, training wise. Hope everyone's niggles clear up over the coming days.
I seriously thought I would have to drop out a couple of weeks ago but more than 2 weeks off and some physio seems to have (almost) cured my problem. Like Beep Beep my dream of sub 3:30 is out of the window now but after managing 16.5 on Sunday I now know that I can at least finish, hopefully before it gets dark!
As long as I beat the 4:14 I did 2 years ago (after another injury) I'll be happy.
Only 1 20 for me so far, 4 Sunday's ago, so definitely need another one this week.
Best of luck everyone,
Andrew
El C
Hope everyone is feeling ok today - just done some interval training which always induces a near death experience!
Fingers crossed on all those aches & pains.
I will complete NYC even if I have to crawl, I have come too far, a couple of weeks ago I suspected it was all over!
Do you experienced guys agree that it can be done with so little distance?
When I ran NYC in 2003 I hadn't run for 7 weeks due to injury, it was the hardest marathon I've ever run and I absolutely shattered at the end but I got home in 4-08, slow but I made it. You can also do and you have the advantage that you can get three more weeks of running in before the day.
2003 is why i'm going back, the course needs to be tamed and I want to enjoy it this time!
ps. when you hear the strains of New York, New York, as you cross teh start line you will feel a million dollars, and that has to be worth a few extra miles in anyones book.
i.e. If youv'e nto done much training but can do 10k in 40 minutes, dont' expect to break sub 3 hours is what I'm getting at.
Just go out very easy and enjoy the event... I've got no intentions of enjoying it as such... I know I'm going to be concentrating that much and in so much pain for the majority of the race that "enjoy" isn't going to come into the equation lol...
Obviously I'll enjoy and savour the "crossing the line" bit, and bask in glory after the event and cheer you lot on (assuming I get back before some of you)...
This is a last massive week for me, and my legs are shattered as it is...3 days fo 10 mile runs... did another last night... could barely get below 8 minute miling... quads are actually aching now... however, try and hit 70 this week with the 20 on Sunday and then, just maybe, start to slow down now...???
Think I'm just coming to the end of the training bodywise... had 14 weeks of big miles now and body is saying "had enough" :-)
Pug
P.S. how's everyone else doing this week?
Jonny - I think the advice has been very sound. Just take it easy, enjoy it and do what you need to get around. Don't do too much now so that you're knackered before you get to New York, though. Have you done a marathon before? If not, you're on target for a PB regardless of how long it takes!
Ya git ;-) hahaha, only joking, yeah, I think this is starting to happening to everyone at the moment... enthusiasm is flagging and performances maybe not quite upto speed... (apart from Rowan who's running really well)...
I think we all should be pushing this week to the limit... upto Sunday with a 20 (or whatever your longest run is)... I don't think anyone should be doing a 20 after this Sunday as there's only 21 dats from this Sunday upto new York Start... and I personally think it's risky running 20 that close, even if your'e only plodding it...
I think next week will be a 45 mile week, then the last 2 weeks is when I will seriously be resting.
Before I did Paris in April, I ran right upto the last week, the Sunday before Paris did a 12 miler in the rain then stood about yapping... picked up a cold and didn't train all week... still had the cold when I was on the start line.
This year, going to have the full 2 weeks of taper... but will also be having loads of vitamins (just incase anything changes in your body while the training isn't so hard)... and hopefully go into NY in 100% perfect shape.
Apart form this Hamstring, I suppose I've been lucky and couldn't of realistically done that much more training... so I've no excuses... if I don't perform in NY, then it's purely down to me... nothing else!
Everyone else starting their taper from Monday?
Pug
I have done a 20 miler, 18 miler and 3x16 milers, but my weekly mileage is probably 30-35 miles. what sort of taper should i be looking at? I am aiming for around 4 hrs 20 in NY (going for sub 4 in london in April) and wasnt sure what my long runs should be in teh last 2 weeks?
Any thoughts? Cheers, El C
That's probably a bit to much for me & my max weekly mileage has been c.40, so I'm going to do 37 miles total this week (17 at the weekend), about 30 next week with 15 at the weekend and about 20 the week after with only about 8 at the weekend. Not a scientific approach, but feels right for me!
am back on the radar again after bein away from my pc..doin a bit of last minute training and tryin to keep away from the biscuit barrel.
PUG, bad news about yer hamstring mate..hope you wont be hobbling down the aisle. Can you include me for Sunday night?
WATTY, Glad Hampden was better for you than the Millenium..Good to see Jimmy Mac on form..Altho Walter wants to shut his mouth ( beat any team in the world )..sorry am an Evertonian scarred by his dodgy team selections...
Monday though..am DEFFO looking forward to THAT already..msn is bountybabe72@hotmail.com if you want to talk tactics :-)
How does everyone plan to spend their free time during the taper?
Well, I'm no expert mate by any means, however if it was me... I'd try and get one more 18-20 miler in, over the next 5 days max...
This will then leave 20 days... now for you on that kind of mileage per week... I'd be inclined to go...
Assuming you do 18-20 this Sunday...
16th -22nd Oct = 28-30 tops
23rd - 29th Oct = 18-20
30th 4th Oct = 9-10 tops (consisting of 3x3 milers)
Believe me, that last 7 - 10 days is what's going to make you fresh. Obviously this is my opinion, and god knows I've made enough mistakes over my time... however...I think this would let you know... with 3 weeks to go, you can knock out a 18-20 miler... then you have a decent week with 1x10 miler and the rest made up as you wish... then really rest in the last 2 weeks, as this when you're body can really start storing some Glycogen and making itself fresh...
Just make sure (and it's hard to do) don't worry about losing fitness. Fitness takes 10 days to leave your body, however if you do what I've said above, you'll keep nice and fresh whilst not losing 1 single % of fitness. However, if you feel ANY tiredness, DON'T train.... that's what I'll be doing as dont forget, it's been one hard slog :-)
Basically, my last 20 miler is this Sunday... then for me it's:
16th -22nd Oct = 35-40 tops
23rd - 29th Oct = 20-25
30th 4th Oct = 9-10 tops (consisting of 3x3 milers)
Bounty.... you're added to the Sunday list... suppose we better start thinking of a place to meet??? Any suggestions?
Predicted Times
Pugheaven 2.49.50
Lee Cartmell 2:55
Rowan 3.30
2old 3.35
Daisy D 3.38
Mr and Mrs Coronium - 3:45
flying high 3.50
cottonbud 3.55
Shimlar 3:56
Watty 3:58
mud Splttered 3.58
K.P. 3.59
SlowButFar 3:59 (maybe . . . if Cardiff goes really well)
Mid Life Crises 3.59
BOUNTY 3.59
Bax 3:59:59
ANDREW YATES 4:00
Dooda 4.07
catherine s 4:15
El Capitan s 4.17
sdtoot 4.25
Stuart Barrow 4:30
Lynne Sheppard 5.30
Queenie 4.50
Charlotte 5.30 (with luck and a less weird knee)
Dubai Dave
Glugg, going for a good time not a fast time
flying high 5.0 if everything goes well
bagpuss 6:30
Up For A Beer/Food Sunday Night
Pugheaven
Mid Life Crisis
Lynne S
Charlotte (if she actually finishes on the sunday)
Queenie - might be, depends on state of mind & legs
K.P
Watty (2 Can Dan:-/)
El Capitan
Rowan
Bagpuss
Stuart Barrow
Bax
Catherine S
BOUNTY
I'm completely scrapping my time now cos it looks like I'll be having physio right up until I fly out to New York.
This running malarky is an expensive business I tell you.
My dodgy knee is down to a twisted pelvis /lower back which is in turn knackering my hamstring which is in turn putting extra pressure on my knee. (I hope you are all keeping up here!) It's odd because my lower back/ pelvis have never felt uncomfortable or painful and I spend at least one session a week doing core work at the gym. hey ho.
I'm still able to run but I think it's going to be a run/walk situation in New York because I don't want my first marathon to be my last.
10 miles this afternoon, gym for cross training and core work tomorrow. 20 miles Sunday. Physio Monday!
Can't wait for taper although it is the calm before the storm! x
I had followed the RW sub 4 schedule (well in terms of long runs) but not the total weekly mileage - have been running 3/4 times a week rather than 5/6.
Now that I live in the sticks it is very weird having to run for a long time along tracks with a mountaineering head torch as there are no damn street lights anywhere! Boy do I miss running round teh north circular in London (well, it made up for not smoking!) still, i manged to get out last night and do seven miles at 8.15 m/m pace which is fast for me.
Thanks for the tips - really appreciated - I will aim for 18-20 miles on sunday and then begin the taper.
Up the Villa! El C
Well yesterday I set out to do a 20miler, the first 10 miles where great. I did a good steady pace and cut my walking down to every half hour. BUT then the heavens opened up and in chucked it down, the roads where flooded and hence I got drenched by every passing car. I am sure some where going past me more than once for fun!! Anyway this resulted in ALOT of chaffing, and I got very very sore:( so called my husband to pick me up at 18 miles. I did it in 3 hours 36 mins which I was really pleased with, just really disappointed that I didnt do the full 20.
Anyway when I got home I saw the result of the chaffing. I now have blisters in places I didnt know they could be. And being a woman my chest was rubbing really badly and now I cant even wear a bra its so painful. I have put loads of cream on to ease the pain but am now panicing!
Now I have asked a few questions on here before about training etc, and no one has given me any advise?? maybe no one could help. but I would really apreciate any kind or response to this chaffing problem, what am I to do?? I know I am a slow runner and dont do half the mileage and training you are all doing but I would be devestated if this ruins the day. Also now I am not sure I can go running because I cant run without a sports bra, but wearing one at the moment is so painful> Also do you think I should try and do another long run this sunday, if so how far?
Please help the slowest runner, we matter too:)
Bagpuss
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I'm running 20 this Sunday and 16 the Sat afterwards. I would recommend that you should try to get close to 20 miles this weekend (but only if you feel well!), partly as a confidence builder but also to make the last 6 miles of the marathon more enjoyable! Good luck.
If you use the BodyGlide product then let me know how you get on with it.
Touch wood it's something I've never suffered from so far!. I just cover myself in vaseline and wear lycra everything. It's not flatering but it's super shiny and smooth.
18 miles is good going and you should be really proud you've done it. Personally I wouldn't do another "long" run this weekend. Maybe just go out and see how your legs feel? I know my little legs couldn't manage 2 big'uns in the space of a few days but maybe yours could?
Good luck