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Homeopathy and animals
www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/homeopathytrans.shtml
Many off the shelf conventional medicines appear to make outlandish claims. 'Eases muscle aches...fast!' Never worked for me. 'Leaves teeth whiter than white', excuse me but what is whiter than white? 'Gets to the site of pain - fast'..er, no. 'Eases the discomfort of Athletes Foot', so does Johnsons baby powder.
The point is, some believe it works, some don't. Everyone is different which is the joy of this forum and the world we live in. What I believe in, I don't need to prove to anyone and I don't destroy or attack other peoples beliefs.
'The popularity of a clinical method should not, however, be confused with its value. The popularity of CAM may simply reflect the limitations of conventional treatments. In the past 20 years there has been substantial research on its effectiveness. By March 2004 the Cochrane Collaboration had 145 completed reviews of randomised controlled trials of complementary and alternative therapies: a third showed a positive or possibly positive effect,
I have no faith in God. If you do, fine, good luck. If you do and that causes you to do Good Things (like charity work) then I respect and admire you for it.
If you use your religion as a basis for hate, exclusion, intolerance or ripping people off then I have a major problem and will voice my opinion, while respecting the right of you to express yours.
The great bulk of complimentary "medicine" is probably harmless. It does however peddle false hope to the hopeless and can be financialy draining on those who have little cash to spare. Without some level of proof that it works (real proof, not unsupported anecdotal evidence) then I have an issue with it.
Another example, from personal experience. In Ireland "Faith Healers" are big business. Works in the same way as Reiki, laying on of hands and channeling of energy. I know someone who had had three miscarriages, became pregnant and went to a faith healer to see if they could help ensure a full term delivery.
This woman took a three hour round trip to see this guy who walked into the room and took one look at her before saying "All I see are black clouds. You'll lose teh baby and there is nothing I can do for you".
Can you picture how that must have been? 90 min drive home having been told you will miscarry?
The real punchline?
She carried teh baby to term anyway.
Charlatains, crooks and snake oil salesmen, often self delusional.
Paracetemol is clinicaly proven to ease pain. Different formulations can get into your bloodstream more quickly and therfore act faster. Cinically proven and undisputed. Now does Tesco on brand work faster than Hedex? Thats an advertising claim, as is "whiter than white" or whatever.
And 1 in 3 of the tests were positive or "possibly" positive(!) Remove the spurious possibly positives and whats the number? It must be signifigant otherwise it wouldn't have been included. So complimentary medice is effective maybe 20, 25 or at most 30% of the time? By the time you take into account the famous placebo effect it's kind of grasping at straws a bit isn't it?
http://www.cochrane.org/colloquia/abstracts/ottawa/P-094.htm
Just read this and I'm sorry but it has virtually no relevance to this discussion.
145 reviews is a relativly small sample, but anyway. The therapies checked were:
dietary supplements (non-herbal) (71 reviews), herbals (23), electrical stimulation (eg, transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation) (11) and acupuncture (10).
There is a world of difference between taking something like a vitamin suppliment (71 of 145 cases) or a TENS machine (11 cases) and Reiki. Even the very small acupuncture sample of 10 only yielded 3 positives or possible positives. Less than 25% of the cases examined yielded firm positive results. Bearing in mind that this includes well trodden ground on dietry suppliments I think this undermines rather than reinforces teh alternative case, if it has any bearing on the argument at all.
Quack medicine is a breeding ground for fakes, confidence tricksters, flim flam artists and charlatans.
shortstop, hope all goes well for your Reiki 1 on the 4th. p.m. me if you have any questions that you want to ask beforehand.
T2x
My dad is a Reiki master and offers treatment for terminally ill people. He doesn't cure them, or even claim he can. He offers relief from pain, and his 'patients' state that it helps. This is probably the placebo effect but who cares, it offers sick people some relief. More importantly, he doesn't charge a penny, but most patients pay his petrol.
I personally don't believe in it, but he seems to really help other people for no financial gain, so I fully support him.
like your dad, i don't charge people for treatments, as i have a job that pays a good salary and don't persue giving treatments as a way of making a living and i fit in as many people who asks for treatments as i can.
T2x
Agree with a lot that you say Amadeus. The Cancer Research site has a lot to say about CM and research etc.
Too tired to paste a link but for those who are intersted I think they provide a viewpoint which is realistic.
I have actually expressed interest in scientific research around CM and said that I'm neither for nor against but aware of the pitfalls for vulnerable people who want a cure for something.
I do take offence at your tone that because I'm a woman I'm easily taken in - you don't know me!
I have had countless experiences with clients where I have identified a health or physical problem by laying on my hands that they have not notified me of.
There are many sensations but mainly my hands become very hot over blocked energy areas.
I feel sad for people who find it difficult or impossible to believe in something that is so positive, just because it hasn't been put through the rigors of a chemistry lab.
There are so many things in this universe that we don't understand, it doesn't mean that they don't exist
A suitable test may be to have 50 patients with real ailments of various types and 50 who are hale and hearty. If you can identify teh fakes by simply laying on of hands then Reiki will have been proved.
Unless this trial was written up and documented with no loopholes the doubters would still not believe.(and why should they?)
Since majority of public are not well acquainted with research (true scientific research and it is a specialist subject) it would need to be undertaken by someone who is and can give credence to that research.
Since much is often contradictory you will need a lot of time for established results. In the mean time you have hearsay.
Hearsay is the basis for many things (a lot of which is unfounded chinese whispers for people who want to believe in something?) It is also 'underground' research and basis for a hypothesis .
(interestingly, an 9 year old girl in the States devised a test to determine whether "hands-on" healers could detect feel any "energy" from her hand - all they had to do was determine if their hands were hovering over her hand. In 280 tries, they scored 44% - worse than a 50:50 guess - she became the youngest person to be published in the Journal of the American Medical Association)
Great that you're relaxed, but it won't do anything for your "patients".
And don't feel sorry for me...I'm very happy not believing in any of this stuff.
TwoDogs... I didn't say that I felt sorry for you, I said that I feel sad. There is a difference.
And my hands are only hot over areas of blocked energy... not over all areas of the body. There is a distinct and precise fluctuation.
Is that a won't or a can't?
Healers claim to have gifts that are - frankly - miraculous. These gifts, if proven, would revolutionise medicine as we know it. If proven then the way that medicine is taught would be utterly changed and the benifits would result in thousands of lives being saved or suffering eased. The effect would be particularly dramatic in teh developing world where financial constraints would no longer be a barrier to a world class health service.
Now even the Christ had to have a finger poked into his side to prove he had returned from the dead. And yet you won't heal / diagnose 50 strangers under controlled conditions (while correctly identifying 50 fakes), despite teh collosal easing of world suffering that this would entail?
I hope that you can understand why this makes the sceptics a little suspicious.
electrical energy? chemical energy? kinetic energy? mechanical energy? heat? potential energy?
How is it blocked?
How does it make your hands go hot?
Radiation? convection? (supernatural?)
Have you taken readings from a thermometer... what is the range of fluctuation in temperature?
Or is it the type of heat you can't measure?
Don't feel sad about us unbelievers... we only want to know the 'truth' and to be able to understand... perhaps you could explain without using psuedo-scientific jibberish? ('negative and positive' energy for example)
As well as reiki, the therapies I am also trained and qualified in are therapeutic massage, aromatherapy, reflexology, Indian head massage and sports massage.
I practice holistic therapies because it is what I am drawn to... what I feel I am 'here' to do. Why do I need to proove something that is my vocation and....for want of a better word or phrase... calling?