YP - indeed welcome aboard - I used the 18/70 to sneak in under 2.55 in Paris and think it was the right choice for me, although I upped the number of 20s.
Can you give us a bit of background/history - It doesn't help the training, its just we are a bunch of nosy bastards
Nice to have you Yorkshire Zoomer - 18/55 just helped me take 40 minutes off my PB, but I suspect once you get into the realms of the really speedy, upping the mileage a little becomes an advantage...
Lol, Wenty, you actually will think I'm ridiculous, but one of my sillier moments mid-marathon was thinking that it was all going too fast! Sounds like you'd get your money's-worth in an ultra
Love the tumbleweed . There was tons of the stuff when we drove thru Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.
I'm too crap/old for P&D but will pop in to check on everyone's progress and enjoy our favorite discussion topic
I only put 30 mins on my PB (embarrassed face). I still have to find out what happened 3 weeks before the marathon that suddenly made every run a slow struggle. One moment I feel comfy doing 7-15 pace the next day even 8-15 feels hard had hoped for a miracle on the day but that never happened. Instead I struggled to stay upright for the last 10 miles. The dizziness made me take longer and longer walk breaks but I held it together till after the finish photo before I collapsed and was treated for dehydration/heat stroke
On a more positive note: P&D helped me to chip off big chunks in 3 successful campaigns
With regards to P&D I'm slightly worried... It doesn't take it to account any loo breaks* They should train you to go 10 seconds faster per mile so you have some loo time
* Had to come up with one way to mention our favourite subject.
Chick - it's the Boston effect! I added 20 minutes to my PB there. But like you, P+D has previously given good results. But yes, your pre-race dip needs investigating.
Nice work Madbee - I got it And Wenturtle, that's
Had my first hyperbaric session today. It was a bit scary. And boring. And made me feel relly tired! But if it speeds my hamstring recovery, I'll suffer the other 9 or so sessions
Aha .... you're all over here on the Autumn thread!
Wenty ... You can't "do a Wentoise" though can you?
Apparently I'm doing Nottingham and following the 18/55 plan.
Actually, I might try Nottingham but not sure yet. I also might do Dublin as my main race. Also not sure whether I'll do P&D again - if I do, it'll be 18/55 - but actually I think I need more LT/subLT work and less of the speedy stuff..
September 7 (Kent) SGB1953 - 12/55 - 3:35
September 28 (Nottingham) Dr.Dan - un-tapered training run Steve Trotter 2 - 18/55 - 3:15 veester - 18/55-70 - 3:45 Yorkshire Ploddder - 18/55 - 2:55
September 28 (Loch Ness) Night Nurse - 18/55 - 3:45 StewartC - 18/55 - 3:45
Nose Nowt, Dr Dan, glad you made it to the other side
Madbee - your joke rocks
Marrows, your day in work must have been even more spectacularly tedious than mine. I have now learnt something today though, so thanks the the schoolin' !
Dr. Dan, you can 'do a Wentoise', but it's frowned upon in 5 countries and illegal in at least 3. So marrows was sayin' anyway.
10 miles GA earlier for me. Felt good after a tedious day in work. Now ready to eat the house.
Wait... it appears as if I just posted about actually running. On a runners forum too.
I'm still in. Working my way through my first week of 18/70. My goal is to do the paces properly - slowing right down for GA, Recovery and Long runs because I think that's where I've messed up in the past. It's a pride thing...
However, I fell off my bike today, properly over the handlebars and now have an egg sized lump on my elbow! Morning 9 miler might be a struggle.
Geez veester, that's a proper hardcore 'childhood' injury. 'Course they didn't have them there fancy crash helmets back in my day. Hard as nails we were.
Helping my brother in law shift boxes in a house move today. A fine test for my ectomorphic 'muscular' runners body
It has been a good week weather wise up here too, shame I've got to work through the day , I've managed to run every day this week including a LT run on Tuesday the pace was nothing to shout about but I know it will improve as the training progresses. I think the first week will be around 46 miles 8 short of the scheduled 54, but as I haven't been running more than 40 miles for the past 6 weeks that will be a good start to the campaign
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YP - indeed welcome aboard - I used the 18/70 to sneak in under 2.55 in Paris and think it was the right choice for me, although I upped the number of 20s.
Can you give us a bit of background/history - It doesn't help the training, its just we are a bunch of nosy bastards
+1 and plodder !!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:55 meeps!
Nice to have you Yorkshire Zoomer - 18/55 just helped me take 40 minutes off my PB, but I suspect once you get into the realms of the really speedy, upping the mileage a little becomes an advantage...
Madbee - just to level the playing field for P&D. I did the 18/55 and I put 7 minutes on my PB time. So much better value for money!
I'm too crap/old for P&D but will pop in to check on everyone's progress and enjoy our favorite discussion topic
I only put 30 mins on my PB (embarrassed face). I still have to find out what happened 3 weeks before the marathon that suddenly made every run a slow struggle. One moment I feel comfy doing 7-15 pace the next day even 8-15 feels hard had hoped for a miracle on the day but that never happened. Instead I struggled to stay upright for the last 10 miles. The dizziness made me take longer and longer walk breaks but I held it together till after the finish photo before I collapsed and was treated for dehydration/heat stroke
On a more positive note: P&D helped me to chip off big chunks in 3 successful campaigns
With regards to P&D I'm slightly worried... It doesn't take it to account any loo breaks* They should train you to go 10 seconds faster per mile so you have some loo time
* Had to come up with one way to mention our favourite subject.
Chick - it's the Boston effect! I added 20 minutes to my PB there. But like you, P+D has previously given good results. But yes, your pre-race dip needs investigating.
Nice work Madbee - I got it And Wenturtle, that's
Had my first hyperbaric session today. It was a bit scary. And boring. And made me feel relly tired! But if it speeds my hamstring recovery, I'll suffer the other 9 or so sessions
Shazmo, we need pics!
whats hyperbaric seesions?
chick you are never too old or crap for P&D...
Wenturtle - I like that..... Hmmmm decisions decisions. Wenturtle, Wentoise or Wentort.
Wentoise: does it need to just be 1, surely it could change from day to day?
Aha .... you're all over here on the Autumn thread!
Wenty ... You can't "do a Wentoise" though can you?
Apparently I'm doing Nottingham and following the 18/55 plan.
Actually, I might try Nottingham but not sure yet. I also might do Dublin as my main race. Also not sure whether I'll do P&D again - if I do, it'll be 18/55 - but actually I think I need more LT/subLT work and less of the speedy stuff..
September 7 (Kent)
SGB1953 - 12/55 - 3:35
September 28 (Nottingham)
Dr.Dan - un-tapered training run
Steve Trotter 2 - 18/55 - 3:15
veester - 18/55-70 - 3:45
Yorkshire Ploddder - 18/55 - 2:55
September 28 (Loch Ness)
Night Nurse - 18/55 - 3:45
StewartC - 18/55 - 3:45
October 5 (Chester)
fergster - 18/55-70 - 3:00
Madbee – 12/55 - 3:39
xmjsx - 18/55 - 3:29
October 5 (Jersey)
andrews148 - 18/70-85 - 2:50
October 12 (Yorkshire)
15West - 18/70-85 - 2:50
MileMarker – 18/55-70 - 3:00
October 19 (Abingdon)
Just Running - 18/55-70 - 3:10
Scott Pulley - 18/55-70 - 3:15
October 25 (Snowdonia)
stutyr - 18/55 - 3:30
October 26 (Frankfurt)
kease7 - 12 or 18/70-85 - TBA
October 26 (Venice)
The Running Tortoise - 12/55 - 3:25
October 27 (Dublin)
kevin70 - 18/55 - TBA
Dr.Dan - 18/55? - 3:29
TBD...
Mennania - 18/55-70 - 2:50
Nose Nowt 18/55 3:39
I will try to get some photos in The Chamber tomorrow LFR - uploading is not my area of expertise though
Or a Wentapin?
.....Terrible afternoon at work - can you tell?
Today I found out that WENTOR is a Polish wholesaler of fireplaces.
my god marrows - you must be bored!
I like it LFR but would it not be better as Wenterrapin
DR Dan I think "doing a Wenty" is a collective of all of the above names.
Scott I think you are right this could be a rolling name change sort of thing!
Nose Nowt, Dr Dan, glad you made it to the other side
Madbee - your joke rocks
Marrows, your day in work must have been even more spectacularly tedious than mine. I have now learnt something today though, so thanks the the schoolin' !
Dr. Dan, you can 'do a Wentoise', but it's frowned upon in 5 countries and illegal in at least 3. So marrows was sayin' anyway.
10 miles GA earlier for me. Felt good after a tedious day in work. Now ready to eat the house.
Wait... it appears as if I just posted about actually running. On a runners forum too.
Wentoise: it definitely has the potential to be, some brilliant names coming from people!
5mile recovery for me today, after 9miles GA yesterday.
I'll just plop my hat into the ring if I may.
Abingdon, 18/55 - 3.25
(toying with the idea of Stevenage 2weeks later for giggles).
Last time out I began P&D from a standing start(injured) so hoping to build from a decent base this time round.
I'm guessing most of the Sept P&D ers have started or about to ?
8 miles tonight including first intervals session since London, in yet more rain...
If we run out of variations of wentoise/turtle/tort then there are always possible anagrams to consider.... Wine toes being one from Wentoise.....
I did a 9 w/ 4 LT the other day and felt like I was going to die. It feels hard to believe that I did 15k at that pace when training for London.
I do need to go to the doctor because my chest hasn't been right for weeks. A weird pain at the top of my sternum.
I've ran 3 parkruns since London and all 3 been slower and yet harder work than in the weeks before.
Best to get the chest checked out Andrews, is the pain only when you run?
Not really when I run, but just generally. My chest isn't working correctly though. It's hard to explain.
It's been going on a bit too long, so time for the doctor.
maccatheknacca: see you at abbo, pretty sure most september p&der's would have started by now, my abbo schedule starts in just over 2 weeks...scary!
Milemarker: the anagram wine toes...absolutely brilliant made me chuckle. Nice interval session too
andrews148: hope the doctor's goes okay and its nothing too serious
Andrews148, good call on checking things out with the doc. Sending good vibes in the meantime.
Good to see you Macca!
However, I fell off my bike today, properly over the handlebars and now have an egg sized lump on my elbow! Morning 9 miler might be a struggle.
Good to see a lively gang here already!
Geez veester, that's a proper hardcore 'childhood' injury. 'Course they didn't have them there fancy crash helmets back in my day. Hard as nails we were.
Helping my brother in law shift boxes in a house move today. A fine test for my ectomorphic 'muscular' runners body
6 miles GA later for me in the sunshine. Hurrah!
It has been a good week weather wise up here too, shame I've got to work through the day , I've managed to run every day this week including a LT run on Tuesday the pace was nothing to shout about but I know it will improve as the training progresses. I think the first week will be around 46 miles 8 short of the scheduled 54, but as I haven't been running more than 40 miles for the past 6 weeks that will be a good start to the campaign