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Im absolutely petrified of running on ice (is that an age thing?)
Ive got in a habit of carrying my phone in that running waistband thing, and phone has an emergency note in there. It shows what a state I was in that it was a coke rather than a beer.
15 on a Monday is superb.
LMH I think its part of the mara training journey - although I don't recall it being as hard as this back in the day. good recovery skills!
nice little run this afternoon 50min offroad 10k at sunset, then 5 miles at a bit of pace with my mate on road
TR: ha! No butler or maid, just a partner whose musical preferences are more Renaissance than any later. We have a clavichord, too...
Sounds like pretty solid training WTGY. 9M progressive to MP can't be bad with a few 20s thrown in too.
Great racing OO. Spot on pace-wise & a relaxed sub 3 in the bag.
I obviously don't go hard enough in racing as despite extending yesterday's 8M race to 21M my legs feel absolutely fine again. Not much power on the bike this morning but then it was meant to be a recovery spin. Stuck to my Runless Monday rule so just the cycling & a swim today.
Forecast is looking rubbish from tomorrow onwards. I'm bracing myself for some more treadmill action.
Jools - nice, i thought that was a collar bone.
SJ - i wanted to pencil in southampton mara in case Brighton gets scuppered by weather or illness, but i couldnt get it approved as we have a family wedding tbe day before (first saturday of our cricket season too !).
Jooligan - well done on keeping to the rules.
Thanks Jools, your mileage is even more impressive if you throw in non running Monday
SJ Im not that house trained
Hard frost, no ice up here, trails were lovely this morning on my 8.6 miles of nowt nor summet !
LMH -- I don't think too much about refuelling TBH. After my long runs I generally have a bowl of porridge if I'm at home. But it's a bit random after races -- it's true I tend not to eat until I get home, so it could be hours sometimes.
OO - very nicely judged marathon. You're a model of consistency!
TR - you're smashing out loads of MLRs and LRs. Really hope it all goes to plan for the next few months as you must be getting into great shape.
CW - hadn't you done 20M including a hard section in the middle on the Saturday? Not surprising that your legs were creaky after that!
After 0, 0, 0, 3M Mon-Thurs last week I salvaged something with 8M progressive on Friday evening and 14M finishing with a parkrun win (not fast though, 17:0x) on Saturday. Nothing on Sunday though.
5.5M steady yesterday lunchtime and hoping to get to the track this evening for some mile reps, assuming the snow holds off!
I think I know what a harpsichord is. A clavichord is not on my radar though.
Out of interest, what level of pain would it take for you guys to stop a training run? I know they say you should listen to your body and I agree with that, but during marathon mileage if you stopped every time you had a slight niggle you wouldn't get anything done. Today didn't exceed a 3/10 so I carried on and hoping with lots more stretching it won't be an issue. I guess some of it is paranoia around affected areas too - if I had a 3 or 4/10 pain somewhere else I wouldn't think anything of it, but when it's an area you've previously had trouble with it plays on your mind.
And thanks for your thoughts re: twinges - I've done the same regarding dialling down efforts and being sensible with mileage.
Would also second your comments regarding protein ASAP after sessions; definitely helps.
EE - rather than level of pain I tend to stop if I feel something is changing my gait and therefore likely to cause issues elsewhere other than the hamstring when it's just a question of a shorter stride.
Is mini Padams over whatever ailed him now? Any races on the horizon?
No snow here but lots of rain - and weather warnings for snow/ice for the next few days, it could get difficult to get out.
I am however still nervous with the calf that went end of November
Pissing down E Yorks.
Cw - even if you ran hard in training, youd still get doms after racing xc, unless you race xc regularly.
Padams - nice one on the win.
EE - ive run on a tight hammy a lot in the last yr at times, but would stop when i feel it get too tight. Wouldnt run in pain, but i guess 3/10 isnt really pain, more s niggle.
5m recovery this morning, thats all i had time for anyway, but i still get WTFP with these, however best to shut up and get it done. The time to review the training is april 15th.
I do probably overdo the injury ignorance but I see so many folk who take a week off over a minor twinge only to repeat the cycle 3-4 times as it reappears. They then get despondent as their fitness has plummeted. Meanwhile I've carried on training
I do like peanut butter and a nice fruit spread (rather than too sweet jam) but can't imagine PB and Marmite
Even my physio agrees that I do far better running through most things rather than taking time out but I do adjust miles/pace accordingly rather than trying to carry on regardless.
LMH.. I think I'm hibernating with my treadmill this week.
It's good hat you don't feel you need the recovery TR but the enforced shorter days will be keeping you fresher for the longer stuff.
The 30 minute immediate replenishment then a meal within two hours was the standard advice for years sj but recent research seems to indicate that within two hours is just as effective (though I don't wait that long!).
Lots of rain here yesterday (and some sleet and a little snow) and freezing overnight, in fact we're not due to hit 0C until 1000hrs so no idea if I'm going to able to run outside ot not.
EE - I have a bit of pain at the start of every run, either tight achilles or around the hips, but it tends to ease after a mile or so. I would only stop a run if it was obviously getting worse - you can usually tell if it's causing proper damage.
LMH - yes, he seems fine now, thanks for asking. Still haven't really decided on my plans for the year - may do a local HM at the start of March, and still quite fancy our club's 12 hour race again in September as I enjoyed that last time I did it.
I'd also read some recent research that said the old rule of eating protein within 30 mins of training was nonsense. I use any excuse to justify eating more food, but sometimes it just isn't possible to eat straight after training/racing. I don't really notice any difference either way though.
I got home from work relatively early yesterday so did a session on my own rather than wait for the club session. So 2M easy, 5x1M with jog recovery, start the next effort every 7mins. Including the recoveries that resulted in 6M in about 35:20 (about 5:40 for the miles and probably 7m/m for the 80ish second recoveries), then cooldown to make it up to 9M total. That was hard work on dark pavements with some undulations.
3M into work this morning - a bit slippery in places but not too bad. Legs weren't feeling great as expected, but feel better having done the short run.
Wardi hows your track? Mine incorporates a slope alongside head wind and really thick grass, bloody horrible, plus I don't think I'm too bad with the old OCD
Padams - that session looks to have taken inspiration from swimming ones?
I used to try and eat close after a run, but then I don't tend to eat much before going out, so invariably its close to a meal time once finished running anyway.