Hello all, hope you are well. I find myself in need of moral support regards speed insecurities.
Yesterdays run (supposed to be R8 W2 x3) Warm up R8 W2 R8 W3 R7 Warm down. Total inc warm-up/down 2 Miles travelled in 40 Minutes with 1% incline on TM. Heart rate for last 3 mins of running 175-180 BPM - c.90-95% max
20 Minute miles at near max effort - bloomin' rubbish.
Now, I keep telling myself that it's the TM thats slowing me down, and when I can run for 30 mins on the treadmill, I'll go outside and find myself banging out 30min 5k's with ease in the real world, so if anyone would like to tell me this is the case (even if it isn't) or re-assure me 20 minute miles is ok (for now maybe, or even forever?) or shame me in to trying to run faster, I'd be much appreciative.
GG - No No No No not rubbish at all - you are runnigng and thats all that matters - unless you are training to be a sprinter at the olympics - don't worry - just enjoy slow and steady thats Plods motto
just remember you are running !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a mental blockage a while ago and went to the gym for help with the running and they put me on the treadmill for 1m then 1.5m then 2m then 2.5 then 3m - then when I went to the gym & the treadmills were in use & people queing to get on them I thought - What the heck and went outside and havent looked back since - I am progressing slowly and you will too .x
Hellooooooooooooooooo everyone its only plod putting her penny worth ih - I hope along the way I do help some one 'cos I do know how hard it is .xxxx
GG, nothing at all rubbish....the main thing is your running! I have 2 speeds, slow and stop (well, ok, slow and slower). Today i was VERY slow, but i just kept at it. I can honestly say, i dont make my main aim my speed, my main aim is my distance (yes i would love to do 5k sub 30 mins), but i wont worry if i take 40 mins. Come on, chin up, your doing great!
Grump - in my defence the photos are not the most flattering!
BS - Good luck with Ofsted - at least they are only there for a couple of days - we had one in September, its awful but think of the huge glass of wine you can have when its all over with.....
Hello everyone else - off to starbucks for a cheeky coffee!
Kate - those pesky photographers eh? You look great by the way.
Hi to Peter - Well done on your running progress and weight loss, My hat off to you
Welcome back Strump and Womble Hope you had a great hol. Strump.
GG The treadmill I tend to think does not give a true picture of your running ability, I've recently given up my gym membership and now know realise my runs outside are way off the mark from the TM. They are useful and good for a change - but don't be downhearted you will see much better results running outside following your programme. (Not that I'm an expert, as never followed a RW plan, just started out running for a very short while and walking a while till I got my breath back)
Ady - q. right about running around in busy areas. I seem to get a kick start where ever there are pedestrians and queues of traffic, never shall I be seen to be er...walking past
Get a free burger after the run tonight - not that I feel hungry after a run, rather have a beer!
ouzo (sp) isnt good for you! I thought i might like to try some of the local drink....its was soooo yummy (how was i to know it made you pithed), tasted innocent enough to me and i was assured its an innocent drink...well never again shall i smell it, let alone taste the stuff! I have become a light weight in the booze department and i wasnt at all well after 3 of these damn drinks and to cap it all, my healthy eating went right out the window after 2 days, im sorry, i just couldnt resist lol. xx
Just joined this thread and really look forward to hearing all your suggestions. I took up running at Christmas and really enjoying it, completed my first 10k in June did in 61mins pretty happy i'm but sure I could have done better.
Quick question when i go out for a run in the evening my legs are very heavy what causes this?
Hiya viv & welcome. Remember you may be using your legs all day so yes this may be a good warm up before running but it can tire them out. What i try to do i eat a banana half an hr before i go running to give my legs a quick burst of energy. I really am no expert but it seems to work for me. I also started running at christmas & did my first 10K last weekend. Just joined a club last night so hopefully they will pull & push me along to better my times.
Welcome back strump, bet you have a great tan you lucky thing. You will soon be back running & most likely with the good rest you will be even better
GG - you will get betterin time so don't worry. I will be honest with you, i don't understand all that technical numbers & jargon. I just go out & run & have never followed any set plans or anything, i just run as far as i can & add half a mile or so each week & this seems to work for me. Hope this helps.
Woo Hoo confession time hey - as I sit here with my very healthy fresh mango & orange juice, Oh did I forget to mention the liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle vodka to liven it up???? I am celebrating the fact that I managed ( albeit verrrrrrrrry slowly, almost a shuffle ) the dreaded hill - it goes up abt 260ft in 1.5 miles and I have'nt managed to run all the way up untill tonight, sssoooooooooooooo hence the voddy that is my treat.!!!!!!!! So my run was 3.5m which on the flat have been able to do in abt 35mins but with the it took me 40.15 'cos I had a walk home on the last wee stretch - Sorry to go on but I never thought old plod would do it.
Howdy Viv - welcome to the best bunch - always ready to help & advise when ever - from what I know/read/advised from others etc you need to eat correct stuff - as Ady says bananas are good also plenty of pasta pre runs to help legs 'cos we need the carbs for energy etc
PLEASE YOU other guys if I get it wrong in what I think is good advice, do say, I won't take offence 'cos I would hate to give wrong info or encouragement to our new running buddies.
Helloooooooooo to you fab runing & gals I've missed xx
Viv....must agree, stretching is so important (as i know only to well myself). By the way, a huge welcome!
Hiya Ady ....erm.....oh yes the tan is fab ta lol......id like to say im a golden goddess (yeah right), but i'll stick to im a tanned strump lol.
Have to say the rest did do some good, my physio was most impressed at the improvement in my calfs and i know i could tell the difference when i ran today (slow maybe, but much stronger).
Strump - ah yes I remember a time years ago I tried some ouzo, 'tis best forgotton
Well done Plod on conquering the hill your time is brilliant as well !!!!!
Agree - a banana and small drink of fruit juice before a run, or I get that heavy leg feeling/can't seem to get going feeling
Did the 5 mile last night in 59m, feeling pretty pleased about that....and guess what.....there was free beer after as well as a burger!!!!! Actually last thing I felt like doing was scoffing burger and drinking beer, so stuck with the water......
Evenin all! Went out with a couple of experienced runners from work tonight (both have done GNR and Blaydon race many times and are as thin as whippets)
We did a couple of miles but boy do they run so much faster than me - and I think they slowed down too! They managed to have a conversation all the way round whilst I could barely breathe! It was good/interesting to go out with different people - maybe I could treat the sessions I do with them as my speedwork?
Already said I would go out with them again on Monday!
I cannot imagine what it feels like to be able to run for 30 mins straight.....when I can I'm gonna have to think of a big treat, any ideas (bearing in mind I'm on a "healthy eating plan"), and low budget???
For those of you that can do 30mins, how did you celebrate?...was this your first running milestone?.
Well I'd not run constantly for 30 mins at all before I did my first 10k race. I was always stopping and starting every few minutes and really didn't think I could do it. It is all in the mind though I think. When I arrived at the race, I met my cyber running partner for the first time and she was able to run 10k without stopping. I stuck with her and did get all the way around without stopping - that was 75 mins. I think that proves to me I could have done it all along - I just didn't believe I could.
So I'd say get a cyber 'pace maker' and meet up for a race
I'm a bit behind with the goings on in here sorry. Hope everyone is doing good. I've not run for 3 weeks because my back has been bad. I'm hoping to start again Sunday. I did get to chat about it today with running legend Dave Moorcroft, which was very cool. (enough with the name dropping now lol )
OMG well done you lot, so many miles been run *i am not worthy*.....is it only me?, when i read about you all, i feel so proud of you.
I am working today, tonight, another double shift tomorrow and sunday lunch....oh god when will i be able to train? Ive got a race next sunday and im so worried i wont be up to it, to say im in a panic is an understatement (i know im walking almost non stop per shift, but its not the same is it).....oh help!
I will pop in between shifts tomorrow, you all take care xxxx
There is some great work being done here. well done everyone. i still feel a bit of a lonely fat jogger though. It is funny - I am up to about 25 mins of running continuously without a break and I can run /walk 4 miles but some days like today my legs, ass, and back are stiff and I can't manage a mile.
Thought id pop in between shifts (start again at 6pm). Thanks Grumpy, even you saying that has helped me alot. Do you recall this work im doing started off as me helping out on a single shift a few weeks back? lol, i must be mad doing so many shifts now, but the landlady says she wont let me go now lol.
Jeoff, your doing fab! As Grumpy says, dont over do it and stretch before you run. The weight is probably already coming off, i lost stones for with this running lark, slow but sure eh and not all runners are slim builds, i know im not!! Good luck.
See you all tomorrow and take care xxx
ps....i wore my watch on shift and clocked up just under 8 miles in walking (carrying heavy plates i might add lol, no wonder im knackered).
Jeoff on a good day i can run 7 or 8 miles but on days when my body just says no or it's too hot (some people hate hills, me, i just loathe running in the heat) i really struggle to do 3 miles. running is never predictable. Getting through the bad days just makes the good days feel a whole lot better. Nice to see your back in the swing of things strump, well with the work anyway. We will be right behind you cheering you on next week in the race hun
Hi Ady, you are so right running is never predictable - we must listen to our body!!!! x
Strump, watch you don't over do it - 8m is some going in work with plates etc
Jeoff , all I can offer in the way of advice is what has worked for me - I run every other day & that is a plan I got off the internet - I know we are all different & what works for one doesn't always work for another but as long as you are comfortable with your routine then stick at it.
Hello rest of gang - just done 3.7 with a pigggggggggggggggg of a hillin 38.30 managed to run all the way up the hill then walk 2mins run 4 mins them walk 1-run 1 to home - well chuffed BUT HAVE BIG CONFESSION TO MAKE - I never stretch ooooooooooooooooooooh I hear you say but I rode horse hard before run and usually ride her 4/5 times a week and if any of you ride then you will know the action of the leg muscles and I wonder do you think this compensates for me not stretching before runs??? Advice please guys and gals TTFN Nesssie
I have to admit I never stretch or warm up either - no horses to ride here the only thing I usually do before or after are some sit ups to get the blood flowing a bit. So far I havent had any problems from not doing proper stretchs- but when I start out on a run I am very slow at the moment anyway and I guess I do slowly build up speed.
Any suggestions for good warm-ups/ warm downs (preferably non time consuming ones- I would like to retain some laziness about me!!!!!)
Just thought I'd pop in and say hello - just letting my breakfast settle (mmmm museli) and going to mark some exam scripts then off for a morning run.
Hubby and friend still lounging in bed (not together obviously!) after being on the gin last night at the restaurant - I abstained and drove us home cos I knew how I wanted to run today - get me and how dedicated I am!
Kate you are a very good girl, go to the top of the class. I have just arrived at work, here til 5.30 tonight so no running today for me. My body is telling me it needs a rest so i will see how i am tomorrow but if not i will definately go out monday night. Well happy running guys & gals & i will keep popping in & out today in between shifts of boredom to see how you are all doing.
Well plans to go running this morning have gone awry as I started with a stomach upset - don't fancy an aggravated case of runners trots whilst out - might have to give it a miss until tomorrow
I know - on my race last week, the quickest sprint i did was to the portaloos aftewards - as soon as i started running my high fibre cereal breakfast headed south!
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Hello all, hope you are well. I find myself in need of moral support regards speed insecurities.
Yesterdays run (supposed to be R8 W2 x3) Warm up R8 W2 R8 W3 R7 Warm down. Total inc warm-up/down 2 Miles travelled in 40 Minutes with 1% incline on TM. Heart rate for last 3 mins of running 175-180 BPM - c.90-95% max
20 Minute miles at near max effort - bloomin' rubbish.
Now, I keep telling myself that it's the TM thats slowing me down, and when I can run for 30 mins on the treadmill, I'll go outside and find myself banging out 30min 5k's with ease in the real world, so if anyone would like to tell me this is the case (even if it isn't) or re-assure me 20 minute miles is ok (for now maybe, or even forever?) or shame me in to trying to run faster, I'd be much appreciative.
TTFN GG
GG - No No No No not rubbish at all - you are runnigng and thats all that matters - unless you are training to be a sprinter at the olympics - don't worry - just enjoy slow and steady thats Plods motto
just remember you are running !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a mental blockage a while ago and went to the gym for help with the running and they put me on the treadmill for 1m then 1.5m then 2m then 2.5 then 3m - then when I went to the gym & the treadmills were in use & people queing to get on them I thought - What the heck and went outside and havent looked back since - I am progressing slowly and you will too .x
Hellooooooooooooooooo everyone its only plod putting her penny worth ih - I hope along the way I do help some one 'cos I do know how hard it is .xxxx
Hi Plod, Grump and GG
GG, nothing at all rubbish....the main thing is your running! I have 2 speeds, slow and stop (well, ok, slow and slower). Today i was VERY slow, but i just kept at it. I can honestly say, i dont make my main aim my speed, my main aim is my distance (yes i would love to do 5k sub 30 mins), but i wont worry if i take 40 mins. Come on, chin up, your doing great!
Oh its nice to be back
Hello all!
Grump - in my defence the photos are not the most flattering!
BS - Good luck with Ofsted - at least they are only there for a couple of days - we had one in September, its awful but think of the huge glass of wine you can have when its all over with.....
Hello everyone else - off to starbucks for a cheeky coffee!
Kate - those pesky photographers eh? You look great by the way.
Hi to Peter - Well done on your running progress and weight loss, My hat off to you
Welcome back Strump and Womble Hope you had a great hol. Strump.
GG The treadmill I tend to think does not give a true picture of your running ability, I've recently given up my gym membership and now know realise my runs outside are way off the mark from the TM. They are useful and good for a change - but don't be downhearted you will see much better results running outside following your programme. (Not that I'm an expert, as never followed a RW plan, just started out running for a very short while and walking a while till I got my breath back)
Ady - q. right about running around in busy areas. I seem to get a kick start where ever there are pedestrians and queues of traffic, never shall I be seen to be er...walking past
Get a free burger after the run tonight - not that I feel hungry after a run, rather have a beer!
Take Care
xx
That must be why I still cannot shed that last stone and half THE BEER!!!!! ... and the odd glass or two of Merlot with dinner !!!
Thats my confession now - anyone else???????
TC
MRF
Ok, if we must do confessions lol......
ouzo (sp) isnt good for you! I thought i might like to try some of the local drink....its was soooo yummy (how was i to know it made you pithed), tasted innocent enough to me and i was assured its an innocent drink...well never again shall i smell it, let alone taste the stuff! I have become a light weight in the booze department and i wasnt at all well after 3 of these damn drinks and to cap it all, my healthy eating went right out the window after 2 days, im sorry, i just couldnt resist lol. xx
Hi All
Just joined this thread and really look forward to hearing all your suggestions. I took up running at Christmas and really enjoying it, completed my first 10k in June did in 61mins pretty happy i'm but sure I could have done better.
Quick question when i go out for a run in the evening my legs are very heavy what causes this?
Viv
Hiya viv & welcome. Remember you may be using your legs all day so yes this may be a good warm up before running but it can tire them out. What i try to do i eat a banana half an hr before i go running to give my legs a quick burst of energy. I really am no expert but it seems to work for me. I also started running at christmas & did my first 10K last weekend. Just joined a club last night so hopefully they will pull & push me along to better my times.
Welcome back strump, bet you have a great tan you lucky thing. You will soon be back running & most likely with the good rest you will be even better
GG - you will get betterin time so don't worry. I will be honest with you, i don't understand all that technical numbers & jargon. I just go out & run & have never followed any set plans or anything, i just run as far as i can & add half a mile or so each week & this seems to work for me. Hope this helps.
Woo Hoo confession time hey - as I sit here with my very healthy fresh mango & orange juice, Oh did I forget to mention the liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle vodka to liven it up???? I am celebrating the fact that I managed ( albeit verrrrrrrrry slowly, almost a shuffle ) the dreaded hill - it goes up abt 260ft in 1.5 miles and I have'nt managed to run all the way up untill tonight, sssoooooooooooooo hence the voddy that is my treat.!!!!!!!! So my run was 3.5m which on the flat have been able to do in abt 35mins but with the it took me 40.15 'cos I had a walk home on the last wee stretch - Sorry to go on but I never thought old plod would do it.
Howdy Viv - welcome to the best bunch - always ready to help & advise when ever - from what I know/read/advised from others etc you need to eat correct stuff - as Ady says bananas are good also plenty of pasta pre runs to help legs 'cos we need the carbs for energy etc
PLEASE YOU other guys if I get it wrong in what I think is good advice, do say, I won't take offence 'cos I would hate to give wrong info or encouragement to our new running buddies.
Helloooooooooo to you fab runing & gals I've missed xx
Viv....must agree, stretching is so important (as i know only to well myself). By the way, a huge welcome!
Hiya Ady ....erm.....oh yes the tan is fab ta lol......id like to say im a golden goddess (yeah right), but i'll stick to im a tanned strump lol.
Have to say the rest did do some good, my physio was most impressed at the improvement in my calfs and i know i could tell the difference when i ran today (slow maybe, but much stronger).
Lovely to see you all xx
Strump - ah yes I remember a time years ago I tried some ouzo, 'tis best forgotton
Well done Plod on conquering the hill your time is brilliant as well !!!!!
Agree - a banana and small drink of fruit juice before a run, or I get that heavy leg feeling/can't seem to get going feeling
Did the 5 mile last night in 59m, feeling pretty pleased about that....and guess what.....there was free beer after as well as a burger!!!!! Actually last thing I felt like doing was scoffing burger and drinking beer, so stuck with the water......
Hey Ho!!!
Take Care
xxx
Evenin all! Went out with a couple of experienced runners from work tonight (both have done GNR and Blaydon race many times and are as thin as whippets)
We did a couple of miles but boy do they run so much faster than me - and I think they slowed down too! They managed to have a conversation all the way round whilst I could barely breathe! It was good/interesting to go out with different people - maybe I could treat the sessions I do with them as my speedwork?
Already said I would go out with them again on Monday!
Well I'd not run constantly for 30 mins at all before I did my first 10k race. I was always stopping and starting every few minutes and really didn't think I could do it. It is all in the mind though I think. When I arrived at the race, I met my cyber running partner for the first time and she was able to run 10k without stopping. I stuck with her and did get all the way around without stopping - that was 75 mins. I think that proves to me I could have done it all along - I just didn't believe I could.
So I'd say get a cyber 'pace maker' and meet up for a race
I'm a bit behind with the goings on in here sorry. Hope everyone is doing good. I've not run for 3 weeks because my back has been bad. I'm hoping to start again Sunday. I did get to chat about it today with running legend Dave Moorcroft, which was very cool. (enough with the name dropping now lol )
Morning all
OMG well done you lot, so many miles been run *i am not worthy*.....is it only me?, when i read about you all, i feel so proud of you.
I am working today, tonight, another double shift tomorrow and sunday lunch....oh god when will i be able to train? Ive got a race next sunday and im so worried i wont be up to it, to say im in a panic is an understatement (i know im walking almost non stop per shift, but its not the same is it).....oh help!
I will pop in between shifts tomorrow, you all take care xxxx
strump - don't worry. I know what it is like to try to fit in training when you are busy.
All you can do is your best. Remember you are running because you enjoy it. You will be fine in your race. Trust me.
At the end you will wonder why you were worrying.
You have your new tan to show off too
Thought id pop in between shifts (start again at 6pm). Thanks Grumpy, even you saying that has helped me alot. Do you recall this work im doing started off as me helping out on a single shift a few weeks back? lol, i must be mad doing so many shifts now, but the landlady says she wont let me go now lol.
Jeoff, your doing fab! As Grumpy says, dont over do it and stretch before you run. The weight is probably already coming off, i lost stones for with this running lark, slow but sure eh and not all runners are slim builds, i know im not!! Good luck.
See you all tomorrow and take care xxx
ps....i wore my watch on shift and clocked up just under 8 miles in walking (carrying heavy plates i might add lol, no wonder im knackered).
Hi Ady, you are so right running is never predictable - we must listen to our body!!!! x
Strump, watch you don't over do it - 8m is some going in work with plates etc
Jeoff , all I can offer in the way of advice is what has worked for me - I run every other day & that is a plan I got off the internet - I know we are all different & what works for one doesn't always work for another but as long as you are comfortable with your routine then stick at it.
Hello rest of gang - just done 3.7 with a pigggggggggggggggg of a hillin 38.30 managed to run all the way up the hill then walk 2mins run 4 mins them walk 1-run 1 to home - well chuffed BUT HAVE BIG CONFESSION TO MAKE - I never stretch ooooooooooooooooooooh I hear you say but I rode horse hard before run and usually ride her 4/5 times a week and if any of you ride then you will know the action of the leg muscles and I wonder do you think this compensates for me not stretching before runs??? Advice please guys and gals TTFN Nesssie
I have to admit I never stretch or warm up either - no horses to ride here the only thing I usually do before or after are some sit ups to get the blood flowing a bit. So far I havent had any problems from not doing proper stretchs- but when I start out on a run I am very slow at the moment anyway and I guess I do slowly build up speed.
Any suggestions for good warm-ups/ warm downs (preferably non time consuming ones- I would like to retain some laziness about me!!!!!)
Mornin all!
Just thought I'd pop in and say hello - just letting my breakfast settle (mmmm museli) and going to mark some exam scripts then off for a morning run.
Hubby and friend still lounging in bed (not together obviously!) after being on the gin last night at the restaurant - I abstained and drove us home cos I knew how I wanted to run today - get me and how dedicated I am!
Kate you are a very good girl, go to the top of the class. I have just arrived at work, here til 5.30 tonight so no running today for me. My body is telling me it needs a rest so i will see how i am tomorrow but if not i will definately go out monday night. Well happy running guys & gals & i will keep popping in & out today in between shifts of boredom to see how you are all doing.
Well plans to go running this morning have gone awry as I started with a stomach upset - don't fancy an aggravated case of runners trots whilst out - might have to give it a miss until tomorrow
Everyone must be out running cause it is very quiet on here today
HEELLLLLLOOOOOOOO even got a big echo in the room