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Yes I’ll go for a session if one appeals, but this week they’re both on grass which I personally don’t like. If 5x1k or similar comes up around Brunel I’ll try and do it. I very much doubt I’ll do one of the social runs because as we know the paces don’t really work for HR training. I have been looking at Torbay Tri’s sessions too but currently they’re on grass as well. I know many like grass but I’m so poor on off-road that even a level, good quality playing field puts me off my stride!
I’m still looking at shoes. I really don’t ‘need’ another pair for racing....but, well, a new pair would be nice
In terms of the width of the path on the route you shared, I'm not sure how wide it is on that bit that looks like it's in the middle of the lake. I really can't picture it as I've not walked along it, but obviously people will be running against each other, so will overtaking be possible there? As I say I'm not sure as I've not walked it.
Actually, I've just typed all that and then saw the website pic: https://activetrainingworld.co.uk/project/the-marathon-dorney-lake-4th-october-2020/. If the pic is on the path I'm on about above and runners are going in both directions, I suppose there could be a small issue with overtaking if people are trying to overtake in both directions at the same time, and the quicker runners will probably start lapping the slower runners? If people are in single file and keep to one side I think it would be fine the majority of the time though. It's definitely flat - can't get flatter really - but there's potential for a very exposed course if the weather is bad.
Big G - I hate grass too unless it's golf club or tennis court standard. Unlikely round here. I heard Forches Cross has been fenced off so no access to that. I went there once with the Trotters and I found that too rough.
Robert - I don't think we ran any of that path so as Big G says don't know how wide the path is. I don't like that route at all, it says 4 laps but as you run around the lake twice for each lap then it would feel like 8 laps.
Big G had a great marathon round the Nottingham rowing lake, I've never done that race but Robin Hood marathon used to do one lap of that lake and I hated that part of the race. Either very windy or very hot.
I think to run a good race round that Dorney Lake route you'd need to have a strict pacing plan to keep yourself focussed.
shades I was wondering how the 4 laps were going to work, defo looks like 8 laps to me, wouldn’t be a route I would choose but just want something to aim for
cal if I run can pick you up from a station (obs consider alternate plans if I don’t race)
Surely there will be staggered starts over the day. I don't think being overtaken is a problem Covid wise, outdoors after all. Just the same as passing someone on the street when walking or running. As long as runners give up spitting or nasal clearance, now a disqualifying offence I believe.
It will be good as your comeback event as very social seeing the other runners.
Ian - looks to me like only one tight turn per lap, so 4 altogether. The map makes the lake look small but it's very big in reality.
Busy morning planned, circuits, then gym. Followed by food shop and coffee and cake in my friend's garden, socially distanced of course.
Shades mentioned that lake one I did in Nottingham and that was just laps with no turnarounds like this and the aid station was on the side of one of the straights and it was quite long from memory so there was no issue. I quite enjoyed that one but it was a different set up as there were Half runners as well so for me I found I always had people to either run with for a bit, or people to chase. I was lucky with the weather though, in December! Still probably my best-paced race ever, even though I've ran quicker elsewhere.
Last night I had typed in all my credit card details on those Nikes and was hovering over submit fully expecting to order...but then closed the page without ordering.
I did repeat the Wandle section, which was my fastest mile at 8:52 (faster than MP) but I was ready to stop then. I began a cool-down mile and I didn't feel great - very tired and almost a bit spaced out. I was quite ready to quit after that mile but when it came in, it was still quite fast (9:53 which is what I'd term steady pace rather than easy) so I decided to slow down further and give it another mile, especially as I was still a good way from home. Unfortunately, that last mile was mostly uphill so I was far from recovered when I stopped and I walked a further mile to cool-down properly.
I know I don't use a proper HR monitor, but my watch does seem to be quite consistent and it was hitting high 170s for the last four miles (including the two cool-down miles) with a peak of 185. No wonder I didn't feel great at the end! Just as well I walked another mile to allow it come down again. Heat, dehydration and lack of sleep will have all had an effect here so I'm not worried, but it is quite interesting that my HR goes a lot higher than almost every formula thinks it should.
No gym trips planned for today but I will have to go shopping - fridge is empty.
BigG: I'd say: if you've thought about it and still not convinced, don't do it. There's something in your gut saying no.... But if it's fuelled on price, then buy them on money back guarantee and try them out. You're not losing anything that way.
Shades: a busy day for you! What sort of cake will you have? Hope that the gym goes well.
We had a storm last night so it went down to 20c this morning. I ran 9k but by the end it was starting to heat up and the humidity really started to get to me. I got home and B said that I looked like I had already been in the shower!
Big G - just as well you didn't order those shoes. I see the new Asics Metaracer are out today, bargain at £180
Cal - very hot here too, I had a very disturbed night too. Well done getting out there for a tough run in this weather. Your optical HR is likely to give exaggerated HR elevation, which is also why way out from the formulas, although the formulas are only correct for about 50% of folk.
Emmy - optical HRM's only work accurately at rest not for any activity.
No storms here yet but we are due thunder and rain over the next 3 days
Had a busy morning. Left for circuits early so I could drive around town for a few miles with the aircon on and I finally got cool. Great circuits class, very sweaty. Managed to bag last Pilates place for Monday at end of class. Circuits instructor is going to let me stop circuits at 7 a.m. next week to book Pilates class as otherwise I won't get a place.
Hasty cup of coffee then into the lovely cool gym, did full session on lower body, I will ache tomorrow as even managed the plate drag which kills my glutes.
Then onto food shop, lovely and cool in the supermarket and not busy. Home, shower and off to my friend's house, sat in the garden, 28 degrees in the shade. Delicious fruit cake made with lots of butter.
Home now, it's only lunch time and I'm on my 3rd set of clothes for the day
On that note, I've ordered the Nikes. It was inevitable, wasn't it!? The Quidco cash back has tracked so in theory I should get £15.39 back in a few weeks, but you never quite know until it's actually been paid so I'm not counting on it. Usually Sportshoes does pay all the time, but maybe there's something with these Nikes where they'll block it as they're so popular. If the shoes don't feel right I can send them back free of charge and they should be here tomorrow.
Now if you always run a PB in them, then they will be a real bargain.
I see Paris cancelled today, they had moved it again to November. I guess they realise that there is no chance for big events for quite a while.
Big G-Well done on the shoes purchase,as soon as you mentioned it,it was gonna happen.
Do you need to get a GFA time, or do you already have a valid one?
TR-The view means nothing to me,I'd be fine running around an industrial estate.
After work run today was still very sticky,was hoping the storms may have cleared it but no such luck.
Ian - Abingdon would be good for you then.
Yes, TR is right, you should do Abingdon some time, cancelled this year. It's a fast course, well organised, fills fairly quickly as it's a popular race for obtaining GFA times. But the course is so dull, by the 2nd time round a totally deserted industrial estate it's easy to lose the will to live. It's my PB course 2010 unfortunately and if I'd known that would be my last marathon PB I wouldn't have slowed down for the last few miles, I was injured and already had bagged a PB time.
TR - that's good re your GFA times, no pressure then. Conditions were good at Yeovil last year as I did a big course best.
I hate this weather. I was exhausted last night, combination of poor sleep and the heat, went to bed early as I was falling asleep on the sofa. But another hot restless night, not much sleep, did a fair bit of reading including the part in Finn's book when he did Tooting 24hr race.
My flat was so warm this morning and I have really sore quads, hamstrings and glutes from the full lower body workout that I did yesterday at the gym. I even considered taking another rest day but I wanted to get out in the fresh air and I had another pair of new shoes to take for their first run, Clifton 6's. Set off on the flat for the first two miles and then couldn't face continuing on the flat as it's one of my most frequent routes in the dark in the winter, so turned off to do another 2 miles out hilly, 2 miles back hilly, then 2 miles flat. We didn't get rain last night but the 2 villages I ran through on the hilly section had had rain, but it was so humid, I can't remember sweating so much. But amazingly managed to keep HR down. Glutes very sore particularly on the downhills, felt like I'd been kicked by a horse. Saw a horsefly it hovered around me for a few seconds then flew off.
Lazy day today for me.
5 miles recovery today. Bit of drizzle, which was welcome. Then it rained properly when I got home. Temp down to 28 in my flat.