Holy hell, nearly had a heart attack. Went to link to look for my number and I wasn't there...then remembered they list the chaps first. Phew...I'm there
How are the legs Ex Chimney? Are they up to another 26.2 mile outing in 5 days? Mine are killing so off to Spin soon in the hope that a bit of circulation to the muscles aids recovery.
Not sure excited is the word, cacking myself. Good to see on here that lots of other lunatics chose this for their first marathon.
Weather looks a bit middle of the road. 12 deg, 40% chance of rain and 15mph winds? Would it be frowned on if I wore a light jacket or do I just man up and stick with a vest? Those that have done it before, how changable / exposed is it up in the clouds?
Stanners.....I've been called the very same thing. Well the way I see it, after this everything else is literally going to be down hill knowing that hopefully my WB (worst best) was at one of the hardest marathons in the UK.
Brer.... Excited? If it's possible to be nervous excited then that's what I am. I was offered the use of a Land rover to get there Friday....I've requested the Ambulance variety just in case.
A bit of a random question for those more experienced members of the forum.
How long a recovery would you recommend before training for the next event? I've pencilled in to do the Thames trot in Feb, so was thinking of maybe taking a weeks recovery and then limp straight into training for that.
Snowdon was my very first marathon way back in 1995.
I was given number 108, and have kept it every year.
For some reason, I find Snowdon an easier marathon than London, probably because you have to pace yourself more carefully and because there are a few snazzy hills along the course, you have to change pace whilst using different leg muscles.
It is the only marathon I now do on an annual basis, and I bet quite a few Snowdon virgins will be back every year for more enjoyment and punishment.
For all of you doing Snowdon for the first time
ALL THE BEST, and forget the nerves, if you have trained properly which most of you will have done for your first taste of Snowdon glory.
You will finish, if you set off at a sensible conservative pace, nothing silly, just gently does it, and see if you have anything to give by the bridge in Waenfawr, if you have , you've been sensible, and run the race sensibly.
There is not a single bit of the Snowdonia Marathon that I don't love. Running around probably the best mountain in the world is a joy to behold. Whatever the time taken when you get to the finish and collect the piece of slate you'll know that no other marathon will ever feel the same.
I've been running for five years. This is my fourth SNOD. Says it all really
Stanners, they will be lot's of jackets on show. I will be taking one, not so much for the weather but because I have a funny feeling I won't be going fast enough to stay warm in the last quarter......
on that score Brer, quads are a little tender today but my calf is definitely damaged, possibly too much to recover by Saturday. Having a massage on it tomorrow that I'm really not looking forward to, I'll be in tears......
One of those memory's that has stuck with me is the lady who power walked past me as I ran, well, had a running gait at least, up the hill at waenfawr.
Loveendures, as several of us have done mara's, ultra's and other similar races in the last couple of weeks I'm not sure this is the best place to ask when to start training again.....
If reality matched intention I'd know I was dreaming
LoveEndures - just read back on what Brer's done as "training" for this marathon ... think that'll answer your question
Who was asking about food? The lovely parents and children at Waunfawr school usually have a table with flapjack, jelly babies etc (plus water) at the start of the dreaded final couple of miles. Worth stopping off for And, of course, at the top of Bwlch y Groes, there's always the landrover with hot flasks of tea and boiled sweets And didn't the water station after Beddgelert have Mars bars last year (or did I dream that?).
PJL - you sound much happier this week, which is great news
Brer - fab running at Abingdon. Must have been getting Ofsted out of your system
FWIW, did a very steady 5 miles round a lovely, but very muddy, woodland trail yesterday. Found it very hard going, but guess that's the old taper bug kicking in (well that's my excuse, anyway)
Hiya gang, back from Spin, that sorted the ITB issue.
Now, do I need to dust down my vamp-goth costume for this jolly? I will certainly look out for a nurse
Training for the next marathon, don't do it...just do multiple marathons! Next one for me is Hardmoors Goathland on Nov 9th..hardcore but beautiful
SD, I forgot about the lovely chaps with the flasks just as you are about to descend on that lovely bit which I am sure by now will be like a river.
Kit-wise-I have made several mistakes in the past, namely taking too much. If it is cold, I just have a crappy fleece and bin liner to ditch at the start. By the time you get to Pen Y Pass, you will be sweating so you don't need loads of layers. Waterproofs are irrelevant really, cos if typical rain comes..they wont help.
Gloves are always an issue for me as I get really cold, I now wear rubber disposable jobs to protect my hands until they get warm.
This is the only marathon which I get so excited about because it is the very best challenge in the face of adversity. If it is a nice day, well that is a bonus. We will do our best team and then go to The Pantri for treats at some point. See you soon SS X
Eek i am 2317, you will all recognise me in proper nurse uniform at the start but if it chucks down and dress gets too heavy then I'll be really annoyed! Glad there are some flapjacks/ marsbars, the gels have led to some unfortunate race disasters....
I'll make a stab at names and numbers. Also gives me a good excuse to move myself to running round the mountain. Did think of creating a new catergory of staggering round the mountain, but think that will include most of us come about 23 miles in
On my wish list, to be fast enough to watch people run properly up that hill............
3:10
Stephen Weston 3 (1st SNOD)
3:20
NOSEMI (4th SNOD)
3:30
Ultra Disco Stu (3rd SNOD)
3:40
Fieldy (3rd SNOD)
3:45
Banterful
Sub-4:00
BritNick
Fenland Runner (4th SNOD) - 1176
Lemmy
4:05
touie 2
4:10
LoveEndures (1st mara)
4:15
Harshad_Patel (2nd SNOD)
Sub-4:45
KingKenny (1st SNOD) - 1411
Other Half (1st SNOD) - 585
Reydon Rover
Sub-5:00
Stilldreaming (6th SNOD)
Sub-7:00
Peter John Lewis (not sure how many SNODs because some were technically DNSs) - 108
Running round the mountain:
brer rabbit
Bristol303 (1st mara)
Britrisky
Camlo - 2317
Chrissi
Cougie
dave williams2 (1st SNOD)
Duffs2
FlatBoy (1st SNOD)
jason d
jenf - 2155
joesbox
John Bach
Kandinsky
KateF
Mr panad - 545
panad - 2140
Pete Thomas 6
pinkbug
ringo100
Snowdonia Snail
Stanners from the Bridge (1st mara)
Steve J
Strag RouteMaster (3rd SNOD)
Tattooed Runner 41
T Rex (7th SNOD)
Wabo (1st SNOD)
Chimney (4th SNOD) - 1661
2014
Chrissi
If reality matched intention I'd know I was dreaming
BRERR - Superb effort and result at Abingdon and a jolly good write up too!
TRex - Looking forward to it. how do you take your eggs?
SD - love all the smileys
JD - Great news that you're starting! Are the green shorts making another appearance this year lol
All SNOD virgins - the very best on what will be a wonderful day! PJL advice was spot all re pacing but you're all runners and marathon runners at that!! (or will be) so as we knowing pacing is not something we do well. The final hill will hurt like hell whatever pace you go out at so make hay whilst the sun shines I say ;-)
Not sure what runs to do for the rest of the week in my under-trainined stated. I think a 5m tempo run this lunchtime to get the legs spinning free, club (slow) social run (7m) on Wednesday, and something very easy on thursday (4m).
One more question - where's the nearest Parkrun to Llanberis??? A 10:30am start time gives us loads of time if its nearby
Just set sail from Dublin will be recce 'ing Llanberis shortly tempted to drive the course, but will probably only drive up the pass before heading to Ruthin which will be our base this week...got to love holidays!!
For the newbies, don't underestimated the climb out of Beddgelert (pretty much at the half way point) - try and bottle the buzz you will get from the crowd as you run through Beddgelert and use it to help you up the climb!?
Talking to Emlyn Roberts a few years ago, regarding his incredible time of 2 hrs 33min, when he won the 1991 race, only Jeff Norman has gone quicker, but not by much, just under five minutes.
Emlyn told me, the race does not really start until you start the climb out of Beddgelert, he held himself back until around 12-13 miles, and then he picked up the pace (WOW).
Easier said than done I know, but if one can conserve ones energy until Beddgelert,those crucial miles from Rhydd Ddu to Waunfawr will feel slightly easier, if one has done their homework training wise.
From the bottom of Bryn Gwynant to Beddgelert is a very fast 5 mile stretch,almost totally flat, and there is an urge to push the pace, but once you reach the half way point, outside the Gelert climbing gear shop, there is one savage relentless hill for nearly 1.7 miles, it's a huge energy Sapper, and you know you have the fun and games at 21.7 m at Waunfawr bridge.
Holding an even pace on the Snowdon course is tricky, if this is your first time, just do not expect a fast time, it's usually 20-25 min on top of your London time, but that's only if you have trained incredibly hard for the race.
Treat the course with respect, go for a pb elsewhere, Snowdon is one challenging course for the ill prepared, I WILL DISCOVER THAT THIS SATURDAY, it will be a learning curve to see how much inner strength I can muster.
Usually I try and do a very gentle jog up Bwlch Y Groes hill, but if you see someone literally crawling on all fours up towards the quarry at 24 m, that will be me, not hitting the wall, but hitting the wall and then hitting it several times more, just for good measure.
Saturday will be a big learning curve for me, it's up to me if I enjoy the race, or dispair because I did virtually no training at all.
Comments
Where are you getting these race numbers from? Not on the entry list.
http://www.snowdoniamarathon.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/programme-list.pdf
Cheers for the link..
1411 then.
It's a bit close now.
Holy hell, nearly had a heart attack. Went to link to look for my number and I wasn't there...then remembered they list the chaps first. Phew...I'm there
How are the legs Ex Chimney? Are they up to another 26.2 mile outing in 5 days? Mine are killing so off to Spin soon in the hope that a bit of circulation to the muscles aids recovery.
Are we all getting a tiny bit excited now?
Not sure excited is the word, cacking myself. Good to see on here that lots of other lunatics chose this for their first marathon.
Weather looks a bit middle of the road. 12 deg, 40% chance of rain and 15mph winds? Would it be frowned on if I wore a light jacket or do I just man up and stick with a vest? Those that have done it before, how changable / exposed is it up in the clouds?
Stanners.....I've been called the very same thing. Well the way I see it, after this everything else is literally going to be down hill knowing that hopefully my WB (worst best) was at one of the hardest marathons in the UK.
Brer.... Excited? If it's possible to be nervous excited then that's what I am. I was offered the use of a Land rover to get there Friday....I've requested the Ambulance variety just in case.
A bit of a random question for those more experienced members of the forum.
How long a recovery would you recommend before training for the next event? I've pencilled in to do the Thames trot in Feb, so was thinking of maybe taking a weeks recovery and then limp straight into training for that.
Snowdon was my very first marathon way back in 1995.
I was given number 108, and have kept it every year.
For some reason, I find Snowdon an easier marathon than London, probably because you have to pace yourself more carefully and because there are a few snazzy hills along the course, you have to change pace whilst using different leg muscles.
It is the only marathon I now do on an annual basis, and I bet quite a few Snowdon virgins will be back every year for more enjoyment and punishment.
For all of you doing Snowdon for the first time
ALL THE BEST, and forget the nerves, if you have trained properly which most of you will have done for your first taste of Snowdon glory.
You will finish, if you set off at a sensible conservative pace, nothing silly, just gently does it, and see if you have anything to give by the bridge in Waenfawr, if you have , you've been sensible, and run the race sensibly.
Have a great day, I am sure you will.
There is not a single bit of the Snowdonia Marathon that I don't love. Running around probably the best mountain in the world is a joy to behold. Whatever the time taken when you get to the finish and collect the piece of slate you'll know that no other marathon will ever feel the same.
I've been running for five years. This is my fourth SNOD. Says it all really
Stanners, they will be lot's of jackets on show. I will be taking one, not so much for the weather but because I have a funny feeling I won't be going fast enough to stay warm in the last quarter......
on that score Brer, quads are a little tender today but my calf is definitely damaged, possibly too much to recover by Saturday. Having a massage on it tomorrow that I'm really not looking forward to, I'll be in tears......
One of those memory's that has stuck with me is the lady who power walked past me as I ran, well, had a running gait at least, up the hill at waenfawr.
Loveendures, as several of us have done mara's, ultra's and other similar races in the last couple of weeks I'm not sure this is the best place to ask when to start training again.....
Or possibly the best lol
LoveEndures - just read back on what Brer's done as "training" for this marathon ... think that'll answer your question
Who was asking about food? The lovely parents and children at Waunfawr school usually have a table with flapjack, jelly babies etc (plus water) at the start of the dreaded final couple of miles. Worth stopping off for And, of course, at the top of Bwlch y Groes, there's always the landrover with hot flasks of tea and boiled sweets And didn't the water station after Beddgelert have Mars bars last year (or did I dream that?).
PJL - you sound much happier this week, which is great news
Brer - fab running at Abingdon. Must have been getting Ofsted out of your system
FWIW, did a very steady 5 miles round a lovely, but very muddy, woodland trail yesterday. Found it very hard going, but guess that's the old taper bug kicking in (well that's my excuse, anyway)
Hiya gang, back from Spin, that sorted the ITB issue.
Now, do I need to dust down my vamp-goth costume for this jolly? I will certainly look out for a nurse
Training for the next marathon, don't do it...just do multiple marathons! Next one for me is Hardmoors Goathland on Nov 9th..hardcore but beautiful
SD, I forgot about the lovely chaps with the flasks just as you are about to descend on that lovely bit which I am sure by now will be like a river.
Kit-wise-I have made several mistakes in the past, namely taking too much. If it is cold, I just have a crappy fleece and bin liner to ditch at the start. By the time you get to Pen Y Pass, you will be sweating so you don't need loads of layers. Waterproofs are irrelevant really, cos if typical rain comes..they wont help.
Gloves are always an issue for me as I get really cold, I now wear rubber disposable jobs to protect my hands until they get warm.
This is the only marathon which I get so excited about because it is the very best challenge in the face of adversity. If it is a nice day, well that is a bonus. We will do our best team and then go to The Pantri for treats at some point. See you soon SS X
Eek i am 2317, you will all recognise me in proper nurse uniform at the start but if it chucks down and dress gets too heavy then I'll be really annoyed! Glad there are some flapjacks/ marsbars, the gels have led to some unfortunate race disasters....
Hmmm how come there are 1700 chaps and only 500 ladies? Is this not a race for the fainthearted???
No Camlo, its a don't wear your best mascara and tights event, however we are all in it together
I'm so excited, although i'm not sure why - I reckon it'll hurt more than the Outlaw triathlon, and that was very, very hard ...
the more it hurts the more money's worth I get, I suppose
I'll make a stab at names and numbers. Also gives me a good excuse to move myself to running round the mountain. Did think of creating a new catergory of staggering round the mountain, but think that will include most of us come about 23 miles in
On my wish list, to be fast enough to watch people run properly up that hill............
Right,1st Law of Lists:
1) ALWAYS cut and paste the MOST RECENT edition of The List
3:10
3:20
3:30
3:40
3:45
Sub-4:00
4:05
4:10
4:15
4:30
Sub-4:45
Sub-5:00
Sub-7:00
Running round the mountain:
2014
ops ... Adjusting for Ex Chimney before he starts fuming ... (Although I notice you seem to have removed the 'Ex' yourself, which is worrying.)
3:10
3:20
3:30
3:40
3:45
Sub-4:00
4:05
4:10
4:15
Sub-4:45
Sub-5:00
Sub-7:00
Running round the mountain:
2014
No need to worry on the Ex. I've been Chimney for so long that it is a name and not a description anymore, simply forgot the Ex bit!
Again my apologies for messing up the list. Won't happen again. I'll give myself a good talking to.
Jeez, I hate posting on a smart phone.
BRERR - Superb effort and result at Abingdon and a jolly good write up too!
TRex - Looking forward to it. how do you take your eggs?
SD - love all the smileys
JD - Great news that you're starting! Are the green shorts making another appearance this year lol
All SNOD virgins - the very best on what will be a wonderful day! PJL advice was spot all re pacing but you're all runners and marathon runners at that!! (or will be) so as we knowing pacing is not something we do well. The final hill will hurt like hell whatever pace you go out at so make hay whilst the sun shines I say ;-)
Not sure what runs to do for the rest of the week in my under-trainined stated. I think a 5m tempo run this lunchtime to get the legs spinning free, club (slow) social run (7m) on Wednesday, and something very easy on thursday (4m).
One more question - where's the nearest Parkrun to Llanberis??? A 10:30am start time gives us loads of time if its nearby
its only my 1st SNOD
.....but not your last......
For the newbies, don't underestimated the climb out of Beddgelert (pretty much at the half way point) - try and bottle the buzz you will get from the crowd as you run through Beddgelert and use it to help you up the climb!?
Talking to Emlyn Roberts a few years ago, regarding his incredible time of 2 hrs 33min, when he won the 1991 race, only Jeff Norman has gone quicker, but not by much, just under five minutes.
Emlyn told me, the race does not really start until you start the climb out of Beddgelert, he held himself back until around 12-13 miles, and then he picked up the pace (WOW).
Easier said than done I know, but if one can conserve ones energy until Beddgelert,those crucial miles from Rhydd Ddu to Waunfawr will feel slightly easier, if one has done their homework training wise.
From the bottom of Bryn Gwynant to Beddgelert is a very fast 5 mile stretch,almost totally flat, and there is an urge to push the pace, but once you reach the half way point, outside the Gelert climbing gear shop, there is one savage relentless hill for nearly 1.7 miles, it's a huge energy Sapper, and you know you have the fun and games at 21.7 m at Waunfawr bridge.
Holding an even pace on the Snowdon course is tricky, if this is your first time, just do not expect a fast time, it's usually 20-25 min on top of your London time, but that's only if you have trained incredibly hard for the race.
Treat the course with respect, go for a pb elsewhere, Snowdon is one challenging course for the ill prepared, I WILL DISCOVER THAT THIS SATURDAY, it will be a learning curve to see how much inner strength I can muster.
Usually I try and do a very gentle jog up Bwlch Y Groes hill, but if you see someone literally crawling on all fours up towards the quarry at 24 m, that will be me, not hitting the wall, but hitting the wall and then hitting it several times more, just for good measure.
Saturday will be a big learning curve for me, it's up to me if I enjoy the race, or dispair because I did virtually no training at all.
Wise words, And I agree that climb out of Beddgelert is harder than it looks in the graph above.