Hi, I'm brand new and plan to start "wunning" (walking+running) next week. Why not this week? Because on Sunday I've got my longest-for-a-long-time-ride of 65k taking place and given I haven't cycled that distance for just about a year I'm "preserving" my wunning legs...
Anyway, I haven't jogged for a couple of lifetimes, am now in my downhill 40s and would love to do a half marathon (I found one that takes place on 27/07) - this should be enough time to train, eh?
I thought I'd ride a couple of days and wun a couple - maybe 5 days total each week...
When I last ran (about 20+ years ago) all I did was increased my distance a block at a time and the most I ever continuously ran (well, jogged) was about 10km...
I need to keep my cycle kms up as I've got a 100k ride at the beginning of April...
Any suggestions?
I'm not sure if it'll make any difference or not but I'm in the opposite season to you guys - writing from Down Under in New Zealand (we're experience a heat wave right now and it's unbearable)...
I'd like to think that my cardio fitness will help but I've got a feeling it won't ... plus gammy knees ... and being overweight (fortunately, this is getting less so) ...
I thought I'd start off with 30minutes and seeing how many of those I can jog continuously ... then when I can do the entire 30, up it to 45, then 60... am I on the right track d'ya think?
Haven't got time to talk proper will try and do a proper post later but have a look at these shedules and see what you think make sure you stay fully hydrated if you are running in the heat and try and do it on the coolest part of the day(also try and stick to the flat if you can if not walk the hills)
Hi Julie, being a beginner myself (who didn't manage to get too far before being relegated injured to the bench) I don't have too much advice to offer, but there are plenty here who can.
I'm sure your CV fitness will help, but as you know running uses different muscles and of course it's high impact so listen to your body, don't overdo it - only increase time/distance by around 10% a week. Don't worry about speed, build stamina first and then you can work on speed later.
Only slightly jealous of your heatwave, it is extremely wet and windy here today and bliddy cold!
Did my first speed work session today. 5.05 miles in 56 mins. 2 of those miles were 10 min miles which is a whole minute faster than i've ever done before !!!!!!!
Thanks for the links. Yup - am really conscious of staying hydrated... I discovered (after about a coupla thousand kms on the bike - dugh!) that the thumping headaches I was getting were from being dehydrated and being low on electrolytes... now I have an electrolyte mix on my return even if I only go out for an hour or so - it's like magic. The crazy part of it was that I was drinking heaps while I was out but it was the electrolyte bit that was causing the grief. And now it doesn't.
And yes - my shoes need to be replaced. I've just moved to a new city and need to find a specialist running store here.
The Half I'm thinking of doing is organised by Purple Patch Running - the "Down Tow Up Flow" - Windsor to Marlow (http://www.purplepatchrunning.com/races.php) - is anyone else out there doing it? I realise that could be a very dumb question, given the squillions of people who live in the UK and this is restricted to a mere 350 pax.... but hey! You just never know!! We're heading to the Soviet Union and I wanted something to do that was a little different while I was on holiday so I thought (as one does!) what the hell, let's go run a half marathon in England...
There's a part of me that's itching to get started (yes, I know it's gonna hurt and I'm gonna hate it for the first however many weeks) but I gotta get this bike ride over and done with first...
Hey EB, I'm at work , don't know where everyone else is, did you look in the cupboard under the stairs - that was always my favourite hiding place!!
My ankle is doing so much better, mostly I think down to fizz, but I've also been taking these supplements recommended by the specialist for a week now and my shoulder is much better as well, so maybe they're starting to kick in too. Still no running, seeing specialist next Thursday, waiting to see what he has to say.
I started running a few weeks ago, and my general routine is that I do a brisk 5 minute walk to warm up before stretching, then another brisk 5 minute walk before starting my run/walk programme. Originally this was working for me and I could complete my run/walk without any major difficulties. Recently, however, I'm finding that my calves get quite tight during the first repetition (I'm onto run for 7 minutes, walk for 2 minutes) but then it eases off during the second rep and by the time I'm onto the 3rd rep I'm fine. Why does it take me so long to warm up properly?! Is there something I'm missing? Or doing that I shouldn't be?!
Hi All, I'm brand new as well, I actually started ,in november and I've injured myself by being silly. Overweight, unfit, poor trainers, hard pavements, trying too hard = plantar fasciitis. However I've got some whizzy new trainers and can start again. I'll be building up very slowly so it will be ages before I can see a lot of improvement but anything is better than nothing. I like the idea of keeping a log, even slow improvement will show over time.
Hi guys, welcome aboard. My advice to anyone starting out - get a gait analysis done at a proper running shop, staff will recommend the best shoes for you - helps avoid injury - may help with your calf problem totatola. Maybe you should try a 10 min warm up if your still stiff when you start running. I personally leave stretching to the end of my run, I think this is what is recommended. I'm by no means an expert though, so you might want to wait for someone more experienced to drop in.
lathyrus - slow but sure, that's the best way forward. Have you tried fetch - they have a training log, and loads of other stuff on there.
My god Jen what time did you get back from work last night????They are blooming sadistic your bosses
Totaloa i suffer with my calfs quite a bit and have found that wearing compression socks helps.Apparantly they stop the lactic acid building up in your calf muscles so you could try that and if they feel tight or niggly stop and stretch nothing major just light stretches.I always walk first for a bit lightly stretch and then start on my running so everything else your doing seems fine I would however get your gait checked out as the proper shoes could make all the difference(that's if your wearing the wrong ones now ) Keep up the good work
Slow and steady wins the race Lathyrus Like Jen (kwala) says try fetcheveryone.com its a brill site not just for logging your runs but for advice as well(cabletow is the resident doc on there and has lots of advice for running after injuries as well)
Gosh Jen it's really quiet in here lately isn't it don't know where everybody is
finished work at about 11:15 last night, got home about 12:15 this morning - every one on the train had been down t'pub except me . but twas good cos I got to the cab office first - they were all too drunk to get up the stairs, tee hee.
Just waiting for my PT to arrive then an hour of torture for me!
I went for a walk/jog in the sunshine this afternoon, only about one and a half miles at a very steady pace and my foot isn't sore. Yippee. You are right, I had a gait analysis and bought some trainers suited to my feet. Lets hope I can carry on pain free. Had a quick look at the fetch site, it looks interesting and I'll go on again when I have more time..
Did another long run today 6 miles went really well, wasn't at all tired but as soon as I stopped running my left knee was in agony and still is Have no idea what's caused it !!!!!
Bit of apoor week for me on the running front - but determined to get out a bit more next week
Just thought I'd say a wee hello - lovely to hear from someone in the sun Julie- - you're so lucky! heatwave (I wish)!
Hi EB, Jen and G- ... Jen what supplements you taking?? Glad things going better
EB were you out today???
~Hi lathyrus and Slow .. hope all well with you .. lathyrus sounds like you may have the toxic 10 (first ten minutes really hard / sore then it gets easier!) I really suffer with this - maybe due to a small amount (ahem) of alcohol that gets consumed too ... try a different route with a downhill or easier start - my toxic 10 not so bad on flatter starting routes!
Did your curry make you hurry Slow??
Please - I need that big kick up the a*se again this week to get me shivering over the doorstep!
o no ... sorry something weird happened there just as I pressed submit!!
Naomi - that was supposed to read - "sorry about your knee!" ... have you tried RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation) ... Ice well wrapped for no more than 20 mins at a time and maybe a wee anti inflammatory like ibuprofen (if you can take it ok?) hope you'll be ok
Good morning all - today's THE day - the day I start my half marathon training - GULP!
In that other lifetime, when I used to wun, I'd always get up wayyy before sunrise so no one could see me huffing, puffing and going so red in the face I was blue (!!) ... this time however, I'm meeting friends at 5:30pm - in broad daylight - how crazy is that?? And it'll still be unbearably hot too (it's well over 28degrees already)...
I look forward to being able to report back that my experience was a positive one - one that I'd like to repeat again.
Naomi, have you had your knee looked at - if it's still painful I wouldn't run on it until you get it checked out.
Cathyk - not sure what the supplements are called, its some German company, bliddy expensive too, so they wanna work!! They're all natural ingredients, think one is for joints and the other is for cartilage - I'll have a look tonight and let you know. They taste vile so must be good for you!!!
Down under gal, hope you enjoy your daytime running experience - good luck
Hope everyone else is fine and getting lots of running in
Tring 2 Town I suspect this might get lengthy and i'd better remember to stick in some convient breaks for copying onto RW threads too Oh best not take too long writing either as the baths filling (OK i cheated and finished the writing afterwards)
Departed Carlisle in the morning for a nice simple on time train trip southwards. Somehow i'd forgotten the 6 nations was this weekend and England were at home so it was rather busy getting the tube towards Richmond, espcially as there was a reduced service. Still it was a nice pleasant walk down from Gunnersby Park tube to the hotel.
Checked in then watched the end of the bond film. Slipped down to the somerfield to get some AAA batteries for the head torch on the off chance i'd either need it or they current ones would run out. Decided i might as well sample the food at the hotel as i was probably going to be unlikely to be moving far after my run. The meatballs were exquisite. Wanted to get to sleep early but wasn't tired so a spot of watching history boys on the laptop helped a bit (Cracking film btw) then a little after ten i settled down to sleep. Having the room at the stair/lift end of the corridor isn't useful as you can hear people coming and going.
Managed to wake up before the alarm a little before 4 and a quick spot if getting dressed and double checking everything was packed before heading downstairs for the taxi i'd gotten reception to book arrived at 4:30. Dont know if the driver actually knew the quickest way to Euston from the hotel as we seemed to head up the north circular from chiswick roundabout where as i'm damned sure its quicker to head down the A4 in towards london before cutting up northwards. Oh well got to Euston at about 5 and whilst waiting to be let in bumped into a couple of other T2Ters.
The three of us got the front seats of the rail replacment bus and were talking ultras etc all the way there with the bus driver. Two of us were eating pasties whilst the other was going for the pain au choc route of breakfast. Got to Tring station at 7:15 and then a nice little walk to the manor which was along were we going to run towards the canal. It also gave us an early indication of how windy and cold it was liable to be. Got to the Manor and registered, pinned number on t-shirt as well as a last minute check of things.
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Hi, I'm brand new and plan to start "wunning" (walking+running) next week. Why not this week? Because on Sunday I've got my longest-for-a-long-time-ride of 65k taking place and given I haven't cycled that distance for just about a year I'm "preserving" my wunning legs...
Anyway, I haven't jogged for a couple of lifetimes, am now in my downhill 40s and would love to do a half marathon (I found one that takes place on 27/07) - this should be enough time to train, eh?
I thought I'd ride a couple of days and wun a couple - maybe 5 days total each week...
When I last ran (about 20+ years ago) all I did was increased my distance a block at a time and the most I ever continuously ran (well, jogged) was about 10km...
I need to keep my cycle kms up as I've got a 100k ride at the beginning of April...
Any suggestions?
I'm not sure if it'll make any difference or not but I'm in the opposite season to you guys - writing from Down Under in New Zealand (we're experience a heat wave right now and it's unbearable)...
I'd like to think that my cardio fitness will help but I've got a feeling it won't ... plus gammy knees ... and being overweight (fortunately, this is getting less so) ...
I thought I'd start off with 30minutes and seeing how many of those I can jog continuously ... then when I can do the entire 30, up it to 45, then 60... am I on the right track d'ya think?
I look forward to input.
Smiles,
Julie
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=30
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=47
Haven't got time to talk proper will try and do a proper post later but have a look at these shedules and see what you think make sure you stay fully hydrated if you are running in the heat and try and do it on the coolest part of the day(also try and stick to the flat if you can if not walk the hills)
Hi Julie, being a beginner myself (who didn't manage to get too far before being relegated injured to the bench) I don't have too much advice to offer, but there are plenty here who can.
I'm sure your CV fitness will help, but as you know running uses different muscles and of course it's high impact so listen to your body, don't overdo it - only increase time/distance by around 10% a week. Don't worry about speed, build stamina first and then you can work on speed later.
Only slightly jealous of your heatwave, it is extremely wet and windy here today and bliddy cold!
Did my first speed work session today. 5.05 miles in 56 mins. 2 of those miles were 10 min miles which is a whole minute faster than i've ever done before !!!!!!!
Hope your all well
Good morning Early Bird & Kwala
Thanks for the links. Yup - am really conscious of staying hydrated... I discovered (after about a coupla thousand kms on the bike - dugh!) that the thumping headaches I was getting were from being dehydrated and being low on electrolytes... now I have an electrolyte mix on my return even if I only go out for an hour or so - it's like magic. The crazy part of it was that I was drinking heaps while I was out but it was the electrolyte bit that was causing the grief. And now it doesn't.
And yes - my shoes need to be replaced. I've just moved to a new city and need to find a specialist running store here.
The Half I'm thinking of doing is organised by Purple Patch Running - the "Down Tow Up Flow" - Windsor to Marlow (http://www.purplepatchrunning.com/races.php) - is anyone else out there doing it? I realise that could be a very dumb question, given the squillions of people who live in the UK and this is restricted to a mere 350 pax.... but hey! You just never know!! We're heading to the Soviet Union and I wanted something to do that was a little different while I was on holiday so I thought (as one does!) what the hell, let's go run a half marathon in England...
There's a part of me that's itching to get started (yes, I know it's gonna hurt and I'm gonna hate it for the first however many weeks) but I gotta get this bike ride over and done with first...
Smiles
J
Hey EB, I'm at work , don't know where everyone else is, did you look in the cupboard under the stairs - that was always my favourite hiding place!!
My ankle is doing so much better, mostly I think down to fizz, but I've also been taking these supplements recommended by the specialist for a week now and my shoulder is much better as well, so maybe they're starting to kick in too. Still no running, seeing specialist next Thursday, waiting to see what he has to say.
Hi, I'm another newbie looking for some advice!
I started running a few weeks ago, and my general routine is that I do a brisk 5 minute walk to warm up before stretching, then another brisk 5 minute walk before starting my run/walk programme. Originally this was working for me and I could complete my run/walk without any major difficulties. Recently, however, I'm finding that my calves get quite tight during the first repetition (I'm onto run for 7 minutes, walk for 2 minutes) but then it eases off during the second rep and by the time I'm onto the 3rd rep I'm fine. Why does it take me so long to warm up properly?! Is there something I'm missing? Or doing that I shouldn't be?!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi guys, welcome aboard. My advice to anyone starting out - get a gait analysis done at a proper running shop, staff will recommend the best shoes for you - helps avoid injury - may help with your calf problem totatola. Maybe you should try a 10 min warm up if your still stiff when you start running. I personally leave stretching to the end of my run, I think this is what is recommended. I'm by no means an expert though, so you might want to wait for someone more experienced to drop in.
lathyrus - slow but sure, that's the best way forward. Have you tried fetch - they have a training log, and loads of other stuff on there.
My god Jen what time did you get back from work last night????They are blooming sadistic your bosses
Totaloa i suffer with my calfs quite a bit and have found that wearing compression socks helps.Apparantly they stop the lactic acid building up in your calf muscles so you could try that and if they feel tight or niggly stop and stretch nothing major just light stretches.I always walk first for a bit lightly stretch and then start on my running so everything else your doing seems fine I would however get your gait checked out as the proper shoes could make all the difference(that's if your wearing the wrong ones now ) Keep up the good work
Slow and steady wins the race Lathyrus Like Jen (kwala) says try fetcheveryone.com its a brill site not just for logging your runs but for advice as well(cabletow is the resident doc on there and has lots of advice for running after injuries as well)
Gosh Jen it's really quiet in here lately isn't it don't know where everybody is
On a saturday!!!!!!!
tell them you need to leave to go for a run right now or your not doing another thing all day
Just waiting for my PT to arrive then an hour of torture for me!
Gosh they like to work you hard don't they Hope you have a good sesh with PT
I'm hoping to get out for a run tomo as the snow seems to be going
Did another long run today 6 miles went really well, wasn't at all tired but as soon as I stopped running my left knee was in agony and still is Have no idea what's caused it !!!!!
Hi all
Bit of apoor week for me on the running front - but determined to get out a bit more next week
Just thought I'd say a wee hello - lovely to hear from someone in the sun Julie- - you're so lucky! heatwave (I wish)!
Hi EB, Jen and G- ... Jen what supplements you taking?? Glad things going better
EB were you out today???
~Hi lathyrus and Slow .. hope all well with you .. lathyrus sounds like you may have the toxic 10 (first ten minutes really hard / sore then it gets easier!) I really suffer with this - maybe due to a small amount (ahem) of alcohol that gets consumed too ... try a different route with a downhill or easier start - my toxic 10 not so bad on flatter starting routes!
Did your curry make you hurry Slow??
Please - I need that big kick up the a*se again this week to get me shivering over the doorstep!
o no ... sorry something weird happened there just as I pressed submit!!
Naomi - that was supposed to read - "sorry about your knee!" ... have you tried RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation) ... Ice well wrapped for no more than 20 mins at a time and maybe a wee anti inflammatory like ibuprofen (if you can take it ok?) hope you'll be ok
Good morning all - today's THE day - the day I start my half marathon training - GULP!
In that other lifetime, when I used to wun, I'd always get up wayyy before sunrise so no one could see me huffing, puffing and going so red in the face I was blue (!!) ... this time however, I'm meeting friends at 5:30pm - in broad daylight - how crazy is that?? And it'll still be unbearably hot too (it's well over 28degrees already)...
I look forward to being able to report back that my experience was a positive one - one that I'd like to repeat again.
Smiles,
Julie
lathyrus - glad to hear you're pain free
Naomi, have you had your knee looked at - if it's still painful I wouldn't run on it until you get it checked out.
Cathyk - not sure what the supplements are called, its some German company, bliddy expensive too, so they wanna work!! They're all natural ingredients, think one is for joints and the other is for cartilage - I'll have a look tonight and let you know. They taste vile so must be good for you!!!
Down under gal, hope you enjoy your daytime running experience - good luck
Hope everyone else is fine and getting lots of running in
Hi just time for a quicky folks
totatola compression socks are about £12 in boots i think
Cathy yes i was out on sunday done a 5 miler very painful
right time for my race report also available on fetch
speaking of which is cathy recording mileage on fetch?? cos i only see 3 of you when i select buddies only from the training league pages?
I suspect this might get lengthy and i'd better remember to stick in some convient breaks for copying onto RW threads too Oh best not take too long writing either as the baths filling (OK i cheated and finished the writing afterwards)
Departed Carlisle in the morning for a nice simple on time train trip southwards. Somehow i'd forgotten the 6 nations was this weekend and England were at home so it was rather busy getting the tube towards Richmond, espcially as there was a reduced service. Still it was a nice pleasant walk down from Gunnersby Park tube to the hotel.
Checked in then watched the end of the bond film. Slipped down to the somerfield to get some AAA batteries for the head torch on the off chance i'd either need it or they current ones would run out. Decided i might as well sample the food at the hotel as i was probably going to be unlikely to be moving far after my run. The meatballs were exquisite. Wanted to get to sleep early but wasn't tired so a spot of watching history boys on the laptop helped a bit (Cracking film btw) then a little after ten i settled down to sleep. Having the room at the stair/lift end of the corridor isn't useful as you can hear people coming and going.
Managed to wake up before the alarm a little before 4 and a quick spot if getting dressed and double checking everything was packed before heading downstairs for the taxi i'd gotten reception to book arrived at 4:30. Dont know if the driver actually knew the quickest way to Euston from the hotel as we seemed to head up the north circular from chiswick roundabout where as i'm damned sure its quicker to head down the A4 in towards london before cutting up northwards. Oh well got to Euston at about 5 and whilst waiting to be let in bumped into a couple of other T2Ters.
The three of us got the front seats of the rail replacment bus and were talking ultras etc all the way there with the bus driver. Two of us were eating pasties whilst the other was going for the pain au choc route of breakfast. Got to Tring station at 7:15 and then a nice little walk to the manor which was along were we going to run towards the canal. It also gave us an early indication of how windy and cold it was liable to be. Got to the Manor and registered, pinned number on t-shirt as well as a last minute check of things.