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PC... I think I prefer running in green places with beautiful views to high bills.
Just found out that some of the tickets for Sat night still have not been sold... was really hoping to be able to just concentrate on running this week, now have to do final ticket selling onslaught aswell - and find shoes!
Sod it.. going to do some hills.
Are hills really going to do me the same good as speedwork?
I'm adam - bit of background, i'm 46min - 10k and 1.46 half marathon.
Looking through this i'm gonna drop a bit of a bomb. Those who are currently struggling to break 1.55 at half distance, i think are going to struggle with breaking 4 hours. That is my goal and i'm not particularly confident with my times.
Clearly you need to get the long runs in but i would be more focussed on speedwork to get your cruising speed up, i reckon by d-day you need to be closer to 1.50 for half.
Cheers and happy training
adam you are right about being able to do 1.50 for the half to do sub 4,that's what all the books say.but the point of training ois to get quicker/stronger/more endurance,and the pace of imporement can be startling,especially for runners who are in either-quite good shape and just haven't done the distance,cos there's still time to do the longer runs,or b novices who are improving at a swift pace from a low base.i also can affirm that there is a tendency to go off faster than you wuld like in races and the crowd does pull you along a bit.but bottom line is accurate,you need to be able to do a 1.50 half or better by 18th april.
and that's more of a minimum necessary standard than a guarantee: you have to run the second half too ;-).and conditions as we found out last year can take one from being confident of a 4.10-4.05 and hoping to somehow squeeze under 4 if it goes well,to a thank god its over in 4.27 type of runner.
Adam just made me want to scrap the whole thing.
You just pulled me in again.
Hills? or speedwork?....both raise heart rate and strengthen legs and teach your body how to clear out lactic acid. Take your pick. I'm doing hills right now in prep. for Hastings which is 5 miles up hill from the start...
WP - that's good news isn't it? good that you can run again in 5 days, so take a rest week, a step down week WILL do you good.
Meanwhile I've decided I'm going to try running without a watch today - I've definitely found myself clock watching recently - and I read somewhere that you can be too obsessed with time... It's not really cos I'm knackered and think my time will be awful ;-)
What's motivating us here? Is it the thought of achieving what we've trained for? Do we care what people think when they ask what time we ran?
Personally, it's the whole journey. All the training, the ups and downs the illness, the injury, the training runs, the warm up races and the cameraderie with you lot.......and a good time? - well that would be the cherry on the icing on the cake, if you like cherries that is ;-) If the big day is half what it's cracked up to be then it's going to be amazing...
the crowds are amazing,but for me not quite as good as new york...eg,tendency for more gaps especially in the early part of the race and in some bits of docklands.also tendency for british reserve-polite applause,and the annoying 'come on alex' rather than a 'well done' or a wonderful american 'go alex go'.if you haven't already worked it out,you MUST have your name on the fromnt of your vest.at one point i actually found the crowd really annoying.odd but you might see what i mean at certain points on the day.but this is really splitting hairs,not many people get to perform sport in front of a crowd that size!
What stays with me is the shear volume of crowd noise, especially at the end around Buck Palace! Absolutely superb and a cold shiver has gone down my spine as I write this!
Plenty of high 5's are a must. For me, this race is a celebration of running (cliche time!) rather than anything else - although I am still hoping to beat my last time!
Enjoy it, it's a wonderful experience.
I better go shopping and get my FLM kit )I have nothing to wear)ready with my name on it:-)
Thanks for advice will try to go swimming if I can fit it in!!
Miles makes smiles.
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Miles makes smiles.
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As I've never done a marathon before it could still be a case of anything could happen on the day though!
I definitely wouldn't class this as the 'get round on the day' thread as everyone does have 4 hours as a goal, and whilst trying to keep it competetive they also want to get the most out of the whole day (I think). Correct me if I'm wrong anybody!
Also, since I'm doing all this exercise for you, do you fancy doing some work instead of me?
P.S. I agree with Adam - let's change name to the "enjoy the day forum"!
As always, it's a personal thing, achieving the best you can. I wasn't saying just plod around if you know you can do better, no fun in that.
I think we're probably all agreeing here... doing your best, benefiting from the training effort you put in, and enjoying the day.
I think what we're all saying is that there is nothing wrong with having ambition. We're on this thread cos we're willing to put in the training to get the time....but if it doesn't pan out then it's not the end of the world...
With the mixed beginner/inter training, the local club running and your sensible targetting, I reckon you deserve what you're going to get - which is every success!
P.S. How was Silverstone? Was there much support? Was the organisation OK? I haven't been reading up on those threads and the people I know who were running it didn't turn up for the run last night!
I am running the Rhyader 20 miler next saturday so that should be a good indication of my ability to run 9 minute miles x20. Should I aim for 9 min miles, or try 8min 45secs?
Stop where you are!
You're running Rhyader?
Before you go any further, I think we need to know which side of the Severn your loyalties lie?
Can't help you with the last 6.2 miles except to tell you that I'm just as worried as you are. My plan right now is to think negative splits - but it feels like such long way.