2013 Marathon Thread



  • Fiona CFiona C ✭✭✭

    Agree with MG1 jason and there's still 5 quality weeks to go. image

    Got my long run done, not as long as planned but 21 miles nice and easy. A fantastic day (still needed 2 long sleeved tops under the jacket) although a bit of a breeze at times but so nice to be out. image

    NN I have beetroot juice every day. I love beetroot anyway so no problem for me to drink it.



  • MG and Fiona- thanks, and I'm not throwing in the towel. Just going to work my arse off! image

    Fiona- nice mileage image I love beetroot too and just found out that Morrisons are selling 1l cartons of Beet It organic beet juice image
  • Jason,

    Well done.


    3.1 miles done this morning.

  • StewartCStewartC ✭✭✭

    SM6, hope the 10 went well today

    Spark,  those interval sessions look tough with very little recovery, for i mile reps I've taken 3mins recovery, and boy it doesn't seem enough, hope you've enjoyed the 15 today

    NP, I wish my legs were 21 again, how did the 16+ go today

    NN, Happy Birthdayimage good luck today

    Jason, well done in what seemed to be tough conditions, and atleast you know what needs to be done between now and VLM, 

    Fiona, well done with the 21, the last two day it has been shorts and t-shirt for me, but today I did have my Gillet, you know what the weather can be like up here, never tried beetroot juice, no harm in trying some I supose

    HM4, well done on the 5k this morning image

    Today was my secon 20 mile run of the campain, decided to keep it flat today so ran around the industrial estates and an out and back to Dochgarroch, I onlt took two gels with me today, an orange flavoured one and a berry with Caffine, they are not too tasty but paletable, once again the last two miles were tough but I was expecting as much

    Stats for the run




  • Race Report: Silverstone:

    This morning I did not fancy the race at all. I was trying to find excuses not to do it ! If truth be told I think I overdid it on holdau. 50 Miles @ average of 7:45 in 6.5 days is  lot of fast running. It was liberating however as It felt good to run fast and I toot quite a few tips from the julian goater book that was recomended. The only trouble was I had a few aches and pains and jet lag on my return meant that yesterdays 8 Mile run did not feel great by the end of it. 

    Oh well I dragged myself out of bed and set off early. Cereal, frazzles, smiths square crips and 2x yorkie bars before the satrt., You dod not read that in any race prep books and showed my state of mind. I was at the track by 10:30 for a noon start as suggested by the organisers as the place can be a nightmare to get into and out during peak times. 

    Got the the main area and few pitstops. However there was nowehere to go for a few miles warmup. Crazy it it sounds. So tries to stay warm and went to the start area. My PB is 1:37 from November but I thought I should try and see how near I could get to 1:30.  He who dares. So I lined up just in front of the 1:30 pace maker. Loads of folks behind and prefered the space. It was a cloudy day with spells of sunshine. around 6degrees so perfect for running.  I was near enough to the front to here them annouce the celebrety runners ( david weir / scott overall etc).

    We were off. I looked at my watch after a few minutes and it said 6:12 average - far to fast so I eased back. But I stayed in fron of the 1:30 pacer. 

    I felt OK up to 4miles but had a nagging doubt that I had set off to fast...but hey 5 miles came up with an average of 6:47mm.   The sun came out here and it started to effect me - but luckily it went in again and the cloud helped. There was wind too. It helped sometimes when behind you but at other times it was like running through treacle when running into it. 

    7 Miles came and there was a twist in the course. I had 100 Metres on the 1:30 pace maker. All good. At this point we had to run up a short but steep bridge that went over the track!! I rememberd what mr goater said and shortened the stride and increased the cadence. It felt good and I powered up the hill. Goater calls it "running with skill" - I do not know about that but I smiled to myself. 

    Mile 8 Tough. Very tough. Into the head wind and up a hill. My legs felt tough and I though that 1:33 would be mangeable from here. Howevere I thought maybe this tough spell will pass and used my arms as much as I could to keep the legs going. The cloud stayed in and the wind was soon behind me and it felt easier again. 

    The miles between 10-11 were very very tough mentally. I felt I was failing but knew I only had 20 mins left. I told myself that this is what I had trained for so I needed to stick it out. I was hard. very hard !! Then after 11 it was still very hard but the finish was closer. I hoped I was picking up pace - but in relatity I think I just about hung on. 

    A man dressed as superman was just in front of me - about 25 metres. I decided I needed to beat him. He was bloody good though and was overtaking folk. I stuck with him! I was closing as we got nearer the finish. No matter how fast I chased him he stayed in front. He beat me me...

    Fail !!!...

    But a silver lining !!! A PB

    Official Website Time = 1:29:58 !!!! ( Sub 1:30 )  whoop!! image

    A pB by more than 7 Mins whoop image

    Chuffed as a chuff thing..... Thank you Mr Goater - your mind games and techniques worked. Had I not set myself a goal of 1:30 or as close as I could get I would not have beat it !! I think

  • Splits: 6:42 6:49 6:55 6:45 6:45 6:41 6:51 6:40 7:01 6:50 6:51 6:55 6:47 1:03

    Note: I ran further than needed ( 13.2) so mile markers came after garmin marker splits !!! Need to run more efficiently next time !!


  • Fiona/Stewart - well done on two veryvery good long runs!

    Jason - 1:23 is awesome and something I aspire to one day. I know its not what you want - but well done and head down for the next month or so. 


  • Stewart,

    Thanks & well done.


    Well done.

  • AGF, thats a superb effort and a really impressive PB well done

    Stewart C , another good LR in the bank.
  • AGF!!!! Well done on the sub 1.30 PB, Top Man! image

    Stewart- well done on the 20! image
  • Not had time to read back properly but...AGF  your pb sprung out and hit me on the nose.. !!!! fab well done you,...

    will catch up properly later , just getting ready for birthday meal with family..result 1.40.32 little disapointed not to dip under the 1.40 but my 2nd fastest ever half marathon for me, I did 1.39.. 5 years ago so dead chuffed, also 1st in age cat and bottle champagne also 3rd in for the ladies team so we got 1st team prize too...

  • No PainNo Pain ✭✭✭

    Wow some reading back:

    Jason 1:23 and bits, think I would be happy with that with still seven weeks to go and five weeks to add the speed as you look ok on the endurance side of thingsimage

     MG1  hope your enjoying your rest day.

    Fiona another great 21 miles in the bank and all looking goodimage

    HM4 well done on the 3.1 milesimage

    SC another nice 20 mile run in the bank for you sirimage

    AFG now you need to change your name to HGF (Have Got Fitter) where to start fantastic race report and result, looks to me like you have found that inner racer over the moon for you and the sub 1:30 imageimageimage now for 1:25image and sub 3 hours.





  • No PainNo Pain ✭✭✭

    NN Cross post great result on the 1:40 and 1st in age group all looking good for VLMimageimageimage

    As for me did 22.44 at avg 7:36 which all felt nice and easyimage So you where not far off NNimage

  • .I always have a final sprint in the last mile...image it wasnt even down hill..god knows where that came from !!



  • TeknikTeknik ✭✭✭

    mace hope you shake that niggle, and hope Thanet went ok

    Fiona nice double yesterday and well done on the 21m today

    Stewart well done on the 6m yesterday and well done on a controlled 20m today

    MG cracking long run - nice splits and strong finish...well done

    Stuart the HR reading might just be a poor contact in the cold.  Good luck on a tough back to back 10 + 20.

    Spark hope the 15 went ok

    NP well done on your hill and great LR todayimage

    Jason well done on a tough HM - 1.23 is a time most of us here can only dream of. 5 weeks of hard work coming up...image

    HM well done on the 5k today

    AGFimageimageimageimage looks like the holiday plus half-killing yourself on the hotel treddie did some good!!!

    NN image great time, nice age result plus a team win!!imageimage. Great day...


    Essex 20

    I drove up with 3 clubmates (2F, 1M) who are all in Ironman training.  3 loop course, with two big hills on each loop ("big" is relative - this in Essix, shu'aaarp). The intention was 8m easy and 12m at MP (which I don't know yet, but let's say 8mm).

    The two lady clubmates were taking it slow, so I set off with the male tri-curious clubmate, who proceeded to set out at 7:30mm pace.  After I while I eased off, and luckily was joined by a chatty group which included an older runner recovering from a hip operation. Turns out his mara PB was 2:32 so listening to his stories was a worthwhile experience. 

    This lot was knocking out 8.0x miles so I decided to scrap the plan and stick with them, hoping my HR was not going to explode.  Caught my idiot clubmate at mile 4 and spent the next 16m listening to his heavy breathing. He did hang on to us, though. 


    7:48 7:43 8:31 8:08 8:18 8:01 7:59 8:03 7:52 8:26 8:06 7:44 8:08 7:59 7:54 8:09 8:12 8:07 7:53 7:58 .  2h41 and an average 8:03.  HR stayed below 83%max until mile 15 then started to drift badly...very badly (90% mile 20).

    So (a) a 20 mile PB but a pretty stupid thing to do (b) 8:00 mm is not yet comfortable enough for mara pace.  Still 8 weeks to go though...

  • Oh missed mile 1...7.36..I did run 13 honestly..image

    super running Tek image went off a bit fast though didnt ya !!image

  • No PainNo Pain ✭✭✭

    Great running Teknik and another PB imageimageimage

    NN fast last mileimage

  • Fiona CFiona C ✭✭✭

    Fantastic PB AGF, sub 90 minutes!!! imageimage So well deserved!

    Stewart well done on the 20, great to bag another. image

    jason that's the stuff I drink.

    NN a 1st and bubbles, a perfect result and a great time! imageimage

    Another impressive long run NP. image

    Teknik very well done on your PB too! imageimage Hope your clubmate does not read this thread! image

    A great day for the thread!! image


  • Thanks guys image your comments are appreciated.

    NN. That's brilliant to win 2xprizes. Fantastic running. Be chuffed to be the best of your peers image

    NP. Well done in yet another 22 miler. Your in terrific shape yourself. Thanks for comments....we will see image

    Tek, you did that run in high season of training. You will be ready come race day and taper.... Super run that but make sure you look after yourself this week... Brilliant Effort though...
  • Jason - Hard lines, 83.xx is still flying! What would you have been hoping for, had things gone to plan?

    Fiona - Nice 21

    HM - Good running

    Stewart - Good strong 20 miler there, things seem to be coming along nicely!

    AGF - Brilliant runningimage Must be a great feeling to go sub-90image

    NN - Great running, well done on your age cat winimage

    NP - Impressive 22, nice and fast.

    Tek - Well done on the PB, even if that wasn't the plan! Still plenty of time to get MP sub 8.00 though!image


    All this racing talk has got me excited for Alloa in a fortnight, shame I have no idea how fast I can runimage

    10.2 miles this morning @ 9.12 average, easy peasy. Yesterdays cross-training has put life back into my legs, so I don't think I'm going to run again on a Saturday before Lochaber and I'll just throw in more swimming and cycling.

    Quick gym session and 400m swim (as well as a 5 mile round trip on the bike) done this afternoon. 

    20 tomorrow.

  • NN- Super stuff!! Well done on the blingimage

    Tek- well done on the 20 PBimage

    NP- Nice running (as always) Matey!image

    SM6- good luck for tomorrow

    Well today's frustrating Half must have loosened my legs up- just ran my quickest recovery run for a while for the same effort 6.53m in 52.45image

  • Stuart. Your 10 mile easy runs are similar to mine. Suggest that as you have done a few 20s to just head out fast and hang on image

    Nice one Jason.

    Thanks Fiona image

    As mentioned before... A good day for the thread image
  • AGF - Based on the improvement in my 5k time (it's the only real thing I can look at) since this time last year, I should be looking at 89.xx. The lack of fast running is where the doubts come from. Of my last 400km ran only 5 have been quicker than MP...

    I'm just looking forward to finding outimage

  • macemace ✭✭✭

    Nurse - a brilliant win, very well done image Hope you enjoyed your birthday

    jason - great run, that's a cracking time considering

    Tek - promising stuff, and a tasty pb, nice one

    AGF - sub 1:30, chuffed for you as well

    My 20M "race" target was 2:45 and to ignore HR, so i wiped it from my garmin screens image Started at 8:45 and picked up to 8:00 at around 12M and basically was fighting to keep a lid on it after that. Finished strong with a last couple miles mostly uphill sticking to 8:00 and then a final mile around 7:30.

    Overtook loads of runners and had a great time

    2:44  = 8:15 @ 80% HR 

    ..... although the first ( flat) mile was 80% despite being really relaxed at the start !!!! That's why i need to ignore HR as i'd panic seeing something like that

  • Mace - Congratulations ona superb 20 miler....you must be chuffed to beat your target and have plenty in the tank for a faster last mile image

    (last 13 miles at brighton is flat - so no hills to worry about there )

  • StewartCStewartC ✭✭✭

    AGF, great race report and a sub 1:30 pb to boot well done image

    NN, Another great race and 1st in age, congratulations what a way to celebrate your birthday

    NP, another 22 in the bank, and speedy too, well done

    Tek, with another 8 weeks of training I'm sure 8mm will feel a lot more comfortable, well done with the 20 PB even if it wasn't suposed to happen

    SM6, nice running yesterday hope the 20 goes well today

    Mace, a great 20 mile run yesterday, finishing strong and enjoying it too, well done image


  • Thanks Stewart. 

    A small dog run this morning that was laboured at bestimage

  • Mace really impressive 20 miler yesterday well done and yes ignore the HR in the first couple of miles, although 80% overall looks spot on  and you ran it perfectly with that nice strong finish

    Jason well done on yesterdays half I didn't see your post last night, strange how these things are all relative that was a flying time and one most runners who kill for..

    AGF my friend is running Brighton and I know I said it yesterday but will say it again well done on that sub 1.30 !!!

    Not even a recovery run for me today, I spent last night throwing up..not sure if it was the meal I had last night or the piece of chocolate cake I had at the end of the race, the organisers are well known for the array of cakes at the finish but when I  bit into mine it was full of egg shell..image

    meant to be driving to surrey to see the grandkids today but cant face a 200 mile drive feeling like this...image

  • Thank you night Nurse.

    Sorry to hear about the choc cake and reaction. Look after yourself and get well soon.  I hope you kept the champagne for when you feel better !!!

  • AGF yes champers in the fridge and only 1 glass of wine last night so I cant blame the drink..

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