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Chris Brasher Memorial Run 10K
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Anyway, all results were posted on the internet, they got quite a few people's names wrong (my work colleague John became John-Paul!)but they did try at least! They also took pictures of most the people (I didn't make it on the site but my colleague got three pictures up! He was nearly 20 minutes faster than me mind!)
As this is the only Chris Brasher 10k (I think!), and it's really expensive to take part, you'd think they they could at least post our results somewhere, I'm sure it wouldn't cost that much money!
... i'd rather not have an 'official' time than have one that includes the six minutes it took me to reach the start!
When I did the RFL in battersea in May I didn't get past the start line for a good few minutes, there were 8000 people so it was a bit crushed, incredibly well organised though, didn't feel like that many!
However, Mr T has managed to persuade me to get my trainers on again and go for this and now I see that it's turned into a big Forum event - terrific! Hopefully, it won't take me all day (like FLM) so I might actually meet some of my virtual chums after all!
Adding us to the list:
Alley-cat
Annajo (target time=53 mins)
Becca Boo
Ben C #340 (Target time = 42-45 mins)
bern
Bison
Bos #2461
Captain Blackadder
Ceal (Target time = 48-50 mins).
Chintz
Coco-Cat
Devious
Doughball
Faye
FLR
Fraggle
Gav (40 mins)
Helephant (was Helegant) - 01:10-01:15
HoneyB
Mr Jump
JJ's Aussie friends husband
Kinsey
Matthew Broadway (target sub 50, so 49:59)
Meerkat
MikeFrog (target time=55 min)
MissP - expected time of 55-60min
Nessy
Niki
Octopus
Old Bones
Richard Ledger
Riza (target less than 1 hour I hope)
Rundown
Scooby Dave
Shirl
Slug
Staggers
Tara #1783 (prob finish 1hr 5 or just over, hopefully less though!)
Tinks #296 (prob finish 1hr 15 or just plain last!)
Twinkle (hopefully around 1:15)
Mr Twinkle (probably around 60 mins)
URR #3328
Scooby Dave
Spectating
Josie Jump + Jumpets
JJ's Aussie Friend + 2 possums
Spans
Mrs Staggers + 2 Junior Staggers
Tara's boyf + sprog
XRF Bear
Mr Fraggle + fraglets
Mr B's mates Brian and Sarah
Twinkle's Teenage Boy (possibly)
A seperate path takes in a much wider circuit of the park so don't run that and think a lap is taking you longer than it should!
I think it's a bit off too having no timing. I know it's for charidee but it's a RACE with Chris Brasher's name attached to it, it's not billed as a 'fun run'.
Alley-cat
Annajo (target time=53 mins)
Becca Boo
Ben C #340 (Target time = 42-45 mins)
bern
Bison
Bos #2461
Captain Blackadder
Ceal (Target time = 48-50 mins).
Chintz
Coco-Cat
Devious
Doughball
Faye
FLR
Fraggle
Gav (40 mins)
Helephant (was Helegant) - 01:10-01:15
HoneyB
Mr Jump
JJ's Aussie friends husband
Kinsey
Matthew Broadway (target sub 50, so 49:59)
Meerkat
MikeFrog (target time=55 min)
MissP - expected time of 55-60min
Nessy
Niki
Octopus
Old Bones
Richard Ledger
Riza (target less than 1 hour I hope)
Rundown
Scooby Dave
Shirl #117
Slug
Staggers
Tara #1783 (prob finish 1hr 5 or just over, hopefully less though!)
Tinks #296 (prob finish 1hr 15 or just plain last!)
Twinkle (hopefully around 1:15)
Mr Twinkle (probably around 60 mins)
URR #3328
Scooby Dave
Spectating
Josie Jump + Jumpets
JJ's Aussie Friend + 2 possums
Spans
Mrs Staggers + 2 Junior Staggers
Tara's boyf + sprog
XRF Bear
Mr Fraggle + fraglets
Mr B's mates Brian and Sarah
Twinkle's Teenage Boy (possibly)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Not sure on this one, but I think it was a case of (due to the numbers of runners involved) either: use ChampionChip and for the odd thousand or so people who don't return their chips, lose that amount of money from the charity fund, or else take a similar stance to the race for life, with no risk of losing that money
it would be fairly impossible to take people's times any other way, people would be coming across the finishing line in too large a group at the peak finishing times.
I am just wondering how much more we would have had to pay for carrying a chip.
It does take the shine off a bit, not being able to see where you come in the race.
Think how much effort London Marathon puts into getting the chips back off runners at the end of the race - my club colleagues work at the end of London, cajoling tired runners into allowing them to sever those chips from their laces by whatever means.
Its well over 1% of the field as well, at Reading at a guess, it was something like 8% of the field that we are still chasing for Championchips
(not sure exactly how much per chip, but over a fiver I think, though this isn't exactly my field of expertise!)
(oh dear, I've thrown a few figures around there, to be honest this is all estimates on my part, but I reckon I'm not too far off with those estimates)
Although as Andreww says it does take the shine off somewhat not having results to mull over.
You can understand why people get annoyed though. For example, RW are pushing the Reebok Premier Challenge on the website, but results from the CB memorial can't be included in the challenge as there are no official verifiable times!
Surely a company with the purchasing power and reputation of Sweatshop events can come to an arrangement with ChampionChip to make chip timing cost effective even for charity events?
Looking forward to a great day out and well organised event all the same!
Alley-cat
Annajo (target time=53 mins)
Becca Boo
Ben C #340 (Target time = 42-45 mins)
bern
Bison
Bos #2461
Captain Blackadder
Ceal (Target time = 48-50 mins).
Chintz
Coco-Cat
Devious
Doughball
Faye
FLR
Fraggle
Gav (40 mins)
Helephant (was Helegant) - 01:10-01:15
HoneyB
Mr Jump
JJ's Aussie friends husband
Kinsey
Matthew Broadway #2818 (target sub 50)
Meerkat
MikeFrog (target time=55 min)
MissP - expected time of 55-60min
Nessy
Niki
Octopus
Old Bones
Richard Ledger
Riza (target less than 1 hour I hope)
Rundown
Scooby Dave
Shirl #117
Slug
Staggers
Tara #1783 (prob finish 1hr 5 or just over, hopefully less though!)
Tinks #296 (prob finish 1hr 15 or just plain last!)
Twinkle (hopefully around 1:15)
Mr Twinkle (probably around 60 mins)
URR #3328
Scooby Dave
Spectating
Josie Jump + Jumpets
JJ's Aussie Friend + 2 possums
Spans
Mrs Staggers + 2 Junior Staggers
Tara's boyf + sprog
XRF Bear
Mr Fraggle + fraglets
Mr B's mates Brian and Sarah
Twinkle's Teenage Boy (possibly)
Exciting!!!!
I wish I was around to run this one
The view from Richmond Hill is stunning - as I have said before on this forum, I spent my wedding night (not all of it!) staring out on it from the Petersham Hotel - but in what way is it under threat, and by whom?
Perhaps if it were made clear to us we would be less awkward. Frankly, Trust or no Trust, any attempt to build on that stretch of the Thames would become such an issue it would be dropped anyway - or perhaps I'm living in a pre-New Labour world...
Either way, it is an expensive race and with not so much as a finishing time, I feel we do have the right to question where the money is going and why it is so expensive. This in no way of course, reflects on the aims of the race in preserving a great site and honouring a great man, which I am sure are genuine.
Without wishing to get this out of proportion, I too was disappointed to read that this race isn't timed. It will only be the second such race that I've taken part in (the first was a small village 5 mile run), and other organisers have solved the problem.
This is a very expensive race to enter and I assumed that the extra was for charity with normal race fees and facilities as teh base.
I'm looking forward to the event.
Am back from a most refreshing holiday :-)
Nice to see you all keeping the list up.
Can see both sides of the timing thing, but have seen lots of posts on other threads about the small amount of money that goes to charity from these events so can't really complain if a charity tries and maximise their income.
Interestingly, it also says that this is "The only road run in Richmond Park this year".
What about the Nike 10k??? Anybody know if it's on or not this year? Or is this a play on words - the Nike being a proper Race?
It says the richmond gate is closed - i assume this only means to traffic?
I'm coming by bike and do not want to cycle round the outside of the park to the next gate then back inside the park (i'll be needing to conserve my energy!)
The reason the run is not being timed is purely down to cost.
Briefly the costs of the run are as follows;
Hire of Richmond Park £12,000
Traffic orders and road signage for Wandsworth, Richmond and Kingston £8,500
Medical £1,500
Loos £4,500
Park litter collection £2,400
Communications £2,000
Run permits and affliations £800
Shuttle Bus Service £4,000 - this should cost three times as much, but the Bus company have been incredibly supportive.
Barriers £2,000
Course Signage £500
Payment to Business in the Park affected by the closure at least £2,500 - this could rise to £8,000!!
Marquess PA's etc £2,000
Hire of Local School £1,500
Medals £3,000
Marketing (a lot of this was given FOC) at least £6,000
Race Numbers/Postage £2,000
Total so far over £55,200 VAT - you will note their is no cost for anyones time even though a team of staff have been working incredibly hard to make this run happen and it reality I haven't listed all the costs.
The additional cost of timing people with ChampionChip is approx £1.00 per person, £800 for the results £0.25 per person for additional database and envelope labelling plus £5.00 per lost or unreturned Chip. Let alone the cost of mailing out two letters to people reminding them to return the chip if they haven't run.
We have just over 4,000 entries - Sweatshop shoulders all the above costs - the income Sweatshop will receive is £8.51 per runner - that is £10 less Vat (the government makes us tax you for entering a race). So the cost of putting on the run to Sweatshop is over £21,000. Please do note that if we had more runners the costs above would also have gone up considerably
However, on a really positive note we have raised over £50,000 for the Petersham Trust.
We have also made sure there are large clocks at the half way mark and the finish so you can take your own timing.
The purpose of the run has always been to raise money for the Petersham Trust and to let people enjoy a great day out in Richmond Park.
We have been helped enormously by so many people - from Marshals who are giving up their time free of charge - The London Marathon who are donating the water, gave us a free stand at the Marathon Exhibition, as well as lots of free advertising, The Royal Parks - so many people that I can't begin to name them all here.
I do hope that you all have a great day - I and my team have worked incredibly hard to make it an event my dad would be proud off and an event that you will be glad you entered.
I look forward to running round the Park with you on 20th June
All the best
PS Currently there are plans to hold a Nike Run London in November, but not in Richmond Park.
The Park will be open to bicycles and pedestrians on 20th June
Out of interest though, do you think that there will ever come a point when Championchip (or similar system) will launch a lower cost timing service for smaller charity events so chip timing can become standard across the board? As they do all the major international events anyway, surely this is the only real way from them to grow the market?
P.S - put your expected time down on the list! Go on - sure we would all love to know how fast you can run!