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Its official I'm not in
Big disapointment on one hand kind of relieved on the other.
Been running for to long on pain killers, so this will give me the chance to rest and recover for a few months over the winter with plenty of gym work and cross training with the aim of doing a local marathon late next year.
Nice jacket by the way
BBB
Managed to get a club place so I'm very pleased. Time to notch the training up a gear!
Oh well, back to the ice pack!
Hope the training is going well
See you at the start line :-)
Dave
Training is ticking along okay for me at the moment. Just feeling tired from running in the mornings in the dark
Maybe I'll be out running before too long (maybe re-assess in a week) :-)
Good to hear your training is going well, and in 6 days it'll start getting light again :-)
Congrats on getting a place in the marathon. A couple of questions:
a. What is wrong with your knee?
b. What does the pyhsio think about you running 13 mile long runs?
regards
Dave
Matt - some random thoughts. 13 miles seems quite a lot for your long run - most schedules would hit this in mid to late Jan. Maybe alternate a long run of 10 miles one week with a slower longer one the next week. If you don't already, you could stop and stretch ITB and quads a couple of miles into the long run.
I had some back problems about a year ago, which were sorted out by an osteopath, who recommended swimming (front crawl) as the rotation in the spine helps to keep things loose (er, I've yet to do this..)
Matt - I would agree with BD a bit about mixing your runs up but don't see why you should stop or even lengthen your long runs if you are OK at the end of them - I'd only change if you develop more problems but it seems the knee is getting easier so wouldn't worry unless it got worse
I feel it's best to be ahead of schedule and don't see any problem with keeping up the long runs - more time on your feet so your body becomes accustomed to it ......
I have done 15 milers on the last 2 Sundays both at a nice steady pace and not too quick (am running on HR to keep me in check). I may go up to 18miles over the Xmas break.......as I have FLM and an Ironman to contend with next year so have to get into the groove for both.........
training going well - had a couple of big runs over Xmas period including an 18miler (last 30mins were hard but had done loads in the 3days before!)
believe I am well ahead of where I was at this stage in 2003 - so pretty darned chuffed I must say.........hope I can keep it going!!
another 18miler yesterday which was tougher than the last one but I blame a hard bike turbo session last Wednesday which nearly made me sick! but all heading in the right direction. off skiing next week so won't be running and then aim is a 20 miler when I get back.......but have Toughguy to do first on the 30th.....
Do you reckon that skiing can be included in the plan as altitude training? ;o)
All that exertion, full leg workouts every day, lack of oxygen etc.....oh, and the fluid intake!
20 miles should be a doddle on your return!
Makes you understand the advantage of training full time at altitude, e.g. Kenyans, and Paula living in the Pyrenees.
best training for running has been ski touring as you are also exercising very hard at altitude..........better muscle use than straight downhill skiing as well.......and great fun
Just been away for the weekend on 'Marathon Camp' and am back brimming with enthusiasm and motivation but it's a rest day ....Bu@@er
Did a 2 hour long run at camp yesterday so at least 12 miles i reckon.
The great mileage notch up starts now
I did an 18 miler about 2 weeks brfoer christmas though so it shouldn't be too difficult.
Injury free again and starting to up the mileage (slowly).
Happy New Year all, I have been going to the physio since 9th Dec & he has now said that I can start running again, mind you just 200m, then 300m & then so on, thank goodness it seems so long ! I even thought about pulling out of London, but can now see the light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully I will be able to catch up on the training have been going to the gym, so hopefully I will be able to get back ok.
Taking things really slowly first though.
Sounds like you are all doing well.
Jx
one thing i'd love to do is running with fellow forumites before the big day,if anyone fancies that-where are you all based-i am wandsworth and work in the city-happy to run at lunchtimes in the city/evenings in south london/home from work.i will certainly be doing reading half,and probably the rw 15 miler in richmond park...
sent you a mail re training during week , also work in city....
Its been a while since NY02
laters
RR
I am currently doing 6 x 800 at the gym running at 12k with a 4 min jog in between
am still not sure how it's supposed to work.
All I know that after 6 I am knackered ...so hopefully I am on the right lines?
when I did FLM in 2003 I managed to get up to 10x800 at a speed of 13kph on the treadmill which eqauted to about a 3:45 800m............theoretically I should have had a 3:45hr marathon in me, but the very hot day ruined that and I came in at 4:07 so I have a score to settle this year!!!
What speed does the jog need to be - or does that not matter and how regularly do you need to incorporate into your training
Can I sue Yasso if I fail miserably
Did FLM in 4h 41m last year - first marathon and only- am really going to go for 4h this year.
Apart from yassos or however they are spelt what about long runs - last 2 have been 13 and 11
jog speed maybe at 8/9kph
your yasso set should only be done once in the build up period to FLM - plan it such that you get the 10 rep one in about 3weeks before FLM as that will at the end of your peak training period so it will be a good check of your status.......
your long runs should be getting progressively longer week by week.......not shorter........building up to at least 3 20 milers pre FLM........I am up to 18 miles already but I am coming off a good autumn base of training and am aiming to get up to 22 miles at least 5 times pre FLM........you have to get your legs used to the distance involved.......and I am also in training for an Ironman in July so my training is more intense than just FLM so don't follow my plan!!
and do a couple of 1/2 marathons in as a speed test........aim for 1:45 to 1:50 as this should mean you are on track for a sub-4