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I did 5 miles this morning, but I nearly turned back after a mile. I just felt really ploddy, achey and a bit tired. When I set off, I had 7 miles in mind but stopped at 5. It did get a bit easier after a couple of miles, but overall it seemed unnecessarily hard (I was running at an average of 10min/mile pace). This is my problem with doing a few marathons - my training mileage drops significantly, as so far this week I've only done 9 miles.
I'm sure you'll get your energy back soon. The travelling just adds to the tiredness, you'll be fine in a day or so.
I've not seen any improvement in the forecast for Sunday yet, in fact it's worsened slightly. At 9 a.m. forecast to be -2 with a feels like of -10 and a warning of snow, although the snow warning is very general. Today I was talking to a woman at Pilates she lives on Dartmoor and she said they always grit the roads to the prison even on a Saturday night, but not the other roads.
Cal - have a lovely time, hope the snow doesn't stop you going where you had planned to go in Vienna.
Yeah, I did do a lot of walking whilst in Barca and although I slept okay, the travelling is always tiring. Hopefully I'll be back to a bit more like my old self in time for Tavy 13.
I'll see you at Great Welsh or if you want to exchange the books sooner we could always meet for a coffee.
Cal, enjoy Vienna. I hope the park is open for you!
It's a nice morning here, so hoping to get out for a run. I have some new trail shoes that I haven't ran in yet, so the plan is to go out on some easy-ish trails to test them out. I bought them as when I did City to Sea last year, I did it in road shoes which was slow progress for the muddy/hilly bits. Also, this upcoming LDWA event may be muddy in places, so decent trail shoes may be helpful. I currently have a pair of Adidas trail shoes which although okay for the odd parkrun etc, I don't think they'd be suitable for a longer event. The new pair are Asics ones, so hopefully they'll be okay. I'll report back later
Right we'll sort a coffee, and maybe cake, out next week
I wanted to take a rest day today as my ankle was a little sore a couple of times yesterday but as I might be grounded by ice at sometime over the weekend I thought I'd better go out while I can. Just 5 miles easy and had a really nice run, ankle was fine.
They didn't have the Kinesio tape in our local Lidl's but I don't need it as I bought the multi pack last time it was on offer and I still haven't finished the first roll.
Like all of us, you've no doubt been watching the weather forecast for Sunday.
Currently the intention is to still go ahead.
We will update the website and FB again on Saturday lunchtime with our final decision.
Fingers crossed!!
I did 7.5 miles, with about 50/50 off-road/on-road. Really enjoyed it and the new shoes felt fine, especially off-road. They were a bit stiff on-road compared to road shoes which I suppose is to be expected, but they'll be fine for the events I have in mind.
It was a great run but I had no strength at all on the hills, which doesn't bode well for Sunday, but maybe in two more days I'll feel a bit better again. Today's run was much better than yesterday's, anyway!
Glad the new shoes feel good.
Did 9 miles on Thursday, but HR reading for final 6 miles just got progressively higher. I kept the pace steady 9's for first 7 miles then 8:30s for last 2, however HR was in the 180's for the last 3 miles, so presumably a rouge reading for this run, as I felt fine. 16 miles planned for tomorrow, looks like it will be freezing cold!!
Thanks to a nice Cheltenham win yesterday I brought a pair of Inov-8 Roclite 290's. I have the Maverick Original Dorset booked for May and then the South Downs Marathon in June, so I was going to need some good trail shoes. I am just unsure whether to try them out before Brighton Marathon, or wait until afterwards. So tempting!
Shades- After Brighton I have approx 4 weeks in between each race. Could you give me a some guidance on how to structure my training whilst giving myself enough time to recover from Brighton. I have some good off road routes that I can run, just not sure on what volume/frequency I should aim for. I have no specific time goals, I just want to finish and enjoy both Trail races.
For me, nice Tempo run last night. For my 3 miles at speed I managed 7:45's which felt good. Really surprised how well my run's have felt this week. Going to move my 15 mile long run to Saturday morning due to the snow expected on Sunday.
Can't believe we are forecast snow again.....! Crazy weather.
I've been pencilling in my rough marathon plan for the year and, all being well, Sept/Oct will be a busy time again. If I manage to do the marathons I have pencilled in (and I know that's a big if with DNSs etc) I will still be able to reach my target for this year, but there's not much wriggle room if I do end up missing one or two for whatever reason. Main thing I've tried to factor in is a bit of a gap before Loch Ness - if I'm in shape, I want to go for a good time at that one, so I suppose that's my target Autumn race. Also, in terms of logistics/cost, I haven't decided what to do about York and Chester as they're on consecutive weekends and a long drive for me.
But before all that, I suppose now I'm gearing up for DD being my focus in June. If I can get a good time in at an event before then I will do, but the attention seems to be shifting a bit now, with the other events I have planned feeling more like prep for DD.
Good luck if anyone races.
Big G-have you thought about flying to Chester or York?probably a lot quicker than driving and similar price.
As for me,another poor week,I went to run on Tuesday and my Achilles was bad but worse still my right leg started hurting aswell,not sure if it's the start of tendinitis there aswell.
Didn't post earlier as I was giving up on running earlier this week if it was tendinitis in both legs.I was surprised to be thinking like that but it shows how much it's come to be part of my life that the thought of a long time out has made me like that,as it is I've decided that I enjoy running too much to stop,even if it means I go slow for a long time and can't race properly then so be it.
Ian, yeah, I've been looking at all options for getting there. It's crazy how much the trains are. They're really my preferred mode of transport for longer journeys, but seem to be a non-starter due to the price. I can get to Leeds from Newquay Airport for £60 return, but then with the £40 airport parking, 2hr each way trip to Newquay (which is in the wrong direction to Leeds!), plus £20 return to get into York and back from the airport, I am wondering if I may do the 6hr drive (my car is economical). The B&B I have has free parking, so reluctantly I may do that for York. The trains for York for the dates I need aren't out yet so I suppose they may be cheaper when they do come out if I book quickly (I've set up an email alert), so I'll wait for that and then decide. I haven't properly looked at Chester yet, and I haven't entered that race at the moment.
I'm going to trot around a parkrun this morning (it'll be 6-miles in total) and then keep my fingers crossed that tomorrow's race goes ahead.
Loch Ness is a good race to target for your autumn race. It's not a tiring journey.
Yes, that's unfortunate that you have 2 long drives 'up North' on consecutive weekends. I've got Chorley on the 6th Oct so I have to make that awful journey up the M6 on a Friday
Steve - it can be relatively inexpensive if you stay away from the big or overpriced marathons and drive on the day. For example Taunton marathon is £23/25 entry fee and a bronze graded event so well organised. I've just entered Hereford and that was the same price but I have booked an overnight stay for that one.
Are you using a chest strap for your HR? Only time I get rogue high readings is if there's thunder/lightening in the area although I may not realise that at the time.
OTB - congrats on your Cheltenham win and glad you put the winnings to good use. No reason why you can't try out your new shoes on shorter runs.
Re the 4 weeks between your marathons, I don't know how quickly you recover but you'll still be marathon fit from your training so you want to focus on recovering as quickly as you can from Brighton. After the race plenty fluids and food and sleep, next day a gentle recovery run then the rest of the week short easy runs. The speed of your recovery will dictate how much to do between the 2 marathons so we will deal with that at the time as it's a time you need to be kind to yourself.
Ian - injury to us distance runners is far more than just the physical injury but don't give up or even think of giving up. Big G had a long spell of tendonitis and mamafox even longer but they both came through it. And it doesn't mean that you will always be at the mercy of tendonitis. But up until now you've sailed through the first years of your running with barely a twinge, most marathon runners start the injury process in their 2nd year of running. You mustn't give up hope.
Your other leg being sore may be that you are running in a way, even subconsciously, that you're trying to protect the injured achilles, this immediately puts additional pressure on the other leg and it's very common to then pick up an injury in the other leg. When I ran with a cut heel at Loch Ness I picked up a groin hip injury because I was trying not to make my heel hurt any more, I didn't realise at the time I was doing it.
Just waiting for the 7 a.m. booking frenzy for my Pilates class, then out for my run. The one disadvantage of running early in the morning is that I usually run at the coldest time of the day, I seem to live in winter kit. But today while you're all lying in bed
I did parkrun today and although earlier I said I'd plod around, it ended up being a hard effort - mainly because it was so cold and blustery at the start, so I wanted to get going! I'm not sure what my time is at the moment as I didn't stop/start my watch for the parkrun, but I was really pleased with my effort especially in those blustery conditions.
Was a lot colder when I got back from my run than when I went out, think the wind changed direction. I'm not going out again today and might not run tomorrow either depending on if there's ice or not.
I haven't been keeping up to date with it, but parkrun have changed their T-Shirt order process, so hopefully all that will have bedded in by the time I get to my 100th parkrun. I know when I ordered my 50 T Shirt it was easy as parkrun had a partnership with Wiggle, but that partnership has stopped now, and the shirt supplier has changed.
It's odd to think that this time last week in Barca I was getting worried about the heat, whereas this week there're are loads of races getting cancelled due to the potential ice and snow!
Shades/Big G-I am going to carry on running,I think I need to decide do I want to run more or race fast times more,if it's running then I can carry on and take it easier but if it's racing then take Big G's advice about a complete break.At this moment i'm thinking about just running so may look at an ultra again as that took less out of me than my marathon due to pace rtf and worry about times when I'm better.
Tavy 13 is cancelled. I have to say, the organisers took quite a while to make the decision and from a Club Champs perspective I had club mates messaging and calling me asking what was going on. The organisers have made the right decision though I think, and in fact it's really the only decision they could make, as UKA made some announcement which would potentially have impacted the race organisers' insurance if they went ahead. From a Club Champs perspective I'll have to wait and see if they come up with a new date, and if they do and it clashes with an existing CC race, I'll have to find another race. My own chances of completing the CC have diminished, as I have a fairly busy few weeks now, but fingers crossed any new date will fall on a weekend I'm free, although that seems unlikely!
Good luck to everyone who has a race this weekend in what looks like it's going to be tough conditions.
I wonder why parkrun switched from Wiggle? Although I have noticed that over the years parkrun have not been successful at keeping their sponsors on board considering that parkrun has grown so much.
Ian - sometimes we all have to reassess our immediate and sometimes our long term goals and your first goal should be to recover fully from that injury. I don't think switching to focus on completing an ultra will necessarily do that. We are all more likely to get injured when doing speedwork but that doesn't mean you will never run a fast race. Tendonitis is an overuse injury and that's the sort of injury that distance runners get, unfortunately it's just part of the sport, the worst part, you've been really lucky so far so this is hitting you hard as you're just not used to being injured. But you will recover.
I think Tavy 13 was the last local race to make the announcement. Weston Super Mare, Grizzly, Exeter 10K (same organiser as Granite Way, so he's been unlucky with race cancellations!) and a Half in Falmouth all announced something really quickly, but Tavy 13 were a bit delayed. Having said that, Grizzly said they were going to run a shorter race instead, but I'm not sure if that is still the case.
I guess they're pretty tough in Tavistock weather wise being on the edge of the moors and maybe they didn't think it was going to be as serious as it's turned out to be. Poor Pete with the Exeter 10k he's really not being lucky with his races. I expect the Grizzly lot would love these conditions, and as an off road event it's probably safer for runners than a road event, still the difficulty of driving on the hills. Maybe some of the races have cancelled as their medical services won't attend in these conditions. A lot of runners travel and stay overnight for the Grizzly so it might be that they're doing a shorter event for those that have already made the journey to Beer.
steven - so sorry to hear that your race is cancelled too, I didn't realise you were getting this weather too.
We've had about an inch of snow here which has settled on the cars and gardens but the roads and pavements are clear but they are wet and I can't tell if they have black ice so I'm just not going to risk it today. I was hoping I'd wake to a layer of fresh snow everywhere that I could do at least a short run on, fresh snow is nice to run on.
Our young Trotter is disappointed as he had an elite entry to Reading Half, which he's tapered for, but the race was cancelled this morning. He's trying to find another Half for next weekend. It's a shame for him as I expect if he finds a local Half he'll be running on his own and possibly not get his best time, whereas possibly in Reading he'd have been running in a group. I don't know if the organisers put him up in a hotel or if he had to pay for that himself.
Regarding Grizzly, I've never done it as obviously I don't really like off-road and it just hasn't appealed to me. I can't see me doing it in the medium future as I wouldn't do a 20-mile race in place of a marathon, as I obviously have half an eye on marathon numbers, but if it was a marathon I may consider it I suppose, as it's local. On their Facebook group, most were supportive or understood the decision but a couple were "disgusted" (their words) and asking for refunds etc. I couldn't help thinking "be careful what you wish for" as at the end of the day my understanding is that it's just organised by a running club and not a firm. Some people were assuming they'd be insured for race cancellation out of their control, but that is not necessarily the case (I obviously don't know for sure with the Grizzly, but races don't automatically get insurance for cancellations). One said they should consider changing the month for next year....what rubbish!
It did all get me thinking though about what would happen if we had freak weather conditions for something like London Marathon. Nightmare!