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Big G/Shades-I'd like to do Comrades in a few years so that's the long term aim,looking to try a 50 at some point,don't want a hard trail type but there are some canal ones around or cycle path/rail track ones.There is actually a canal by me that leads all the way to Shrewsbury,so may try some on that to ease in to it.
Rcouture - if you're happy running the same route every day that's fine and your motivation is there so no problem. I like to run as varied a route every day as I can, I often set out on one route and then ad hoc will veer of somewhere else and do a bit of exploring.
This may be why Runthrough are so confident. Seems a bit premature of EA to issue this statement and if we do go back to tiers a bit unfair on those that might be in Tier 3 as they can't race. Especially as until they look at the stats won't know which Tier an area is in.
https://www.englandathletics.org/athletics-and-running/news/athletics-competition-planning/?fbclid=IwAR3AAslBhhvgzXjgwJS_DXMBB558_6A7HryS3eBvbmATQoPl_fkPlKUdO38
Ian - Comrades is an iconic race, good goal to aim for. It's more the heat and rolling hills that make Comrades challenging than the distance.
7 miles this morning, cold and dry, then heavy rain for the last mile.
My resistance bands arrived yesterday and I'm pleased with them. They are 1.2m in length but quite stretchy, and there are 5 bands of different strengths. They have carabiner so you can attach multiple bands if needed. There is an ankle strap, a door strap to attach them safely to a door (with no risk of them pinging back in my face...!), and two handles so I'm quite pleased with them.
It's been two weeks since my back procedure and they did say no strenuous exercise for 4-6 weeks but I think easy runs isn't classed as strenuous exercise. The wound is healing well, although it is red. It's not inflamed, it's dry, and the redness isn't spreading (the redness is just around the wound itself) so I've been told it's fine as I called the hospital to check yesterday.
Foot and leg felt pretty good so I tried a short run on the flat. Only 3 miles, and on turning my watch off to walk up the steps up to my house I felt the foot only at that point - up until then I had no problems. I'll see how it goes, but I may alternate days for a week or so and just stay at 3 or 4 miles and take it very, very easy, whilst still doing the strengthening exercises. It was nice to be out though and I had a nice run out, up until walking up the steps. It was a very, very easy pace (i.e, over 11min/miles), but that's fine.
Shades-Yes the hills will be the main challenge,this is part of the reason I want to do DD again,as I don't want think I want to do Comrades until I have a good run there
I k ow the rates of infection are lower in Japan,but interesting states on infections.
I would assume strenuous, as it relates to your back, would be activities such as rowing, weight training, throwing, rugby, football etc.
How's the achilles?
Ian - yes, a good run at DD would set you up nicely for Comrades prep. There must be plenty of training plans for Comrades, I've not looked at them but quite interesting I would think.
Not sure how meaningful that report from Japan is, might have only been one person with symptoms and hundreds who were asymptomatic. But I agree, it seems outdoors there seems very little chance of transmission.
I see online lots of runners and others now testing positive but most seem to have contacted it from family, a few from friends or workmates, all indoor contact.
Shades, achilles does seem okay but it was only a 3-miler, so nothing to get too excited about at this stage.
Shades-Yes there are losts of plans available for them,unsurprisingly a lot involve hills and strength training,I am off for a week soon so will do a plan for DD and I'd guess it could be adapted from the Connemara plans you posted and the Comrades plans.
I'm sure Steve Way is aware of DD but maybe too close risk wise to run DD the week before. Running DD the week before would not improve Comrades performance. After his success at Comrades I expect he's invited back every year.
I've seen him at a few races but usually where a few from his club are running so either as part of a league or chasing the team prizes.
Yes, Connemara plans can be adapted for DD, not necessary to run quite as far for the longest runs and hilly/undulating routes for some of the long runs perhaps. Connemara is not as hilly as DD.
You should write/adapt your DD plan to suit you.
Time goes so quickly, if Connemara goes ahead I should start the 18 week plan on 14th December, but I need to add in a 2 week cushion for niggles and/or bad weather so will start on 30th November which is soon.
10 miles with the middle 4 at MP on Thursday (7:04/7:01/6:59/6:39) and an easy 8 miler today. 15 planned tomorrow for a 50 mile week.
Nothing wrong with your MP.
Ian - but you're feeling stronger aren't you so you'll soon be back to normal fitness.
Sorry to hear about everyone's niggles. I hope they begin to improve.
@big g: the best thing when I had pf was a tennis ball.
@ian: it's be great to see what you can do on the DD course. It's definitely tough terrain.
@shades: you've not got long until you need to prepare for Connemara. Do you think it'll go ahead?
A busy week for me. I've decided to try and shoot for a 5k pb in December. A friend is running a virtual event to raise money for their charity so I thought it might be a nice excuse to try something shorter.
Some folk have success with taping up the foot, which gives the foot some support and they can continue to do some running.
8 miles this morning, perfect running weather, lovely morning.
re Connemara, I don't know. It might but there might not be travel to Ireland without quarantine. Now I think a lot depends on the vaccine and how quickly that has an effect on our freedom to travel and race. But I've decided to go ahead with the training, it's likely the gym either won't reopen this year and/or be closed early in the New Year. I do need to get back to long runs, I've so enjoyed not doing them that I need to change that. But if I can't get to Connemara I will use the training for DD.
Are you enjoying the 5k training?
I felt I could run today but I’ve promised myself I’ll only do alternate days (at best) for a week or so to see how I get on. I have been for a gentle walk (7 miles) with no issues though, stopping for coffee and a bacon bap on the way
I know what you mean about enjoying not doing long runs. I've not run further than 12 for a while.
Ian, really sorry about your foot.
Big G, bacon bap makes it all better eh?
Had a bash at a 5K today...and it wasn't great. I wasn't full of enthusiasm before I left the house and it took me a while to work out all my sore bits with the roller and ball. (On that note, I've started to think that half of my niggles - the QL, the right groin etc - are caused by me sleeping on my left side. Problem is it feels unnatural to sleep on my right or on my back, so the only other option is my front which often leaves me with a stiff neck). Not sure what to do about that.
Anyway, I did three miles to warm up. I often do two but the first two were slow so I felt like I needed another.
I did the 5K itself in 26:34 which is pretty bad, considering it was flat. I know my sleep's not been good and I've had the hamstring problem but I'm still rather disappointed as I managed to bang out several sub-25s during the summer.
Did another mile to cool-down and left it at that.
I mentioned Kilian briefly the other day, and he's hopefully doing a 24hr track event this weekend, timing to be confirmed depending on weather. Very different to mountain running, obviously!
https://www.salomon.com/en-gb/kj-phantasm24
Will give it a few more days of no pain this time and maybe just run 3 miles and see if that makes any difference
Big G - I saw that about Kilian, pity they can't specify a date, but it won't be that exciting to watch anyway.
That's reassuring news from the hospital.
Ian - isn't PF usually at its worst first thing in the morning? Is it the same foot as your niggly achilles?
Just finished 2nd Zoom meeting this week, hectic life I'm leading
I know I have plenty running shoes but now that I've decided the Adrenalines are my future race and long run shoe I need to stock up a bit.
Confession I spent 3 hours on the internet last week and finally found a pair of GTS 20's at £90, first pair cost me £84 but were sold out in my size when I went to reorder. Was then going to order another pair at £90 but the retailer put the price up next day. I put up a price watch on RunRepeat and got a pair through Amazon, ordered today at £84, unfortunately they are white but will use them as my long run shoe and keep the nice blue ones for races. I already have 6 retailers pinned to my taskbar and I'm checking prices daily so if anyone sees Adrenalines on offer over BF please let me know. At the moment the GTS 20's are so popular that on a few websites they are dearer than the 21 model just released. Cheapest I can find now in my size is £108
https://www.peteblandsports.co.uk/
My latest moan, relates to Pete Bland and quite a few other retailers is that if I filter with my required size it still shows me results with shoes that are not in my size. Up & Running does that too. So annoying. I can only assume they had them in my size at one time.
I think Pete Bland is free carriage over £25. They're a great shop worth a visit.
I'll keep an eye out. I'm struggling with finding any adrenaline's for less than 100eur. All of my usual spots are still as expensive or sold out.
BigG: great news about the mole. Trust you to stop off for a bacon bap on the way!
Ian; I hope that with a few more days rest that it'll get better.
Cal: I envy your commitment with your rolling etc. I always forget to do it. I suspect that the lack of sleep would have something to do with it?
Shades - Lockdown and working from home has taught me that I hate Zoom. I find meetings a waste of time in general but even more of a drag when via video for some reason. I think it’s because they take longer than face to face meetings. Anyway I had one with a client last week that was interrupted by my cat jumping onto a sensitive part of my lap which was a shock to all concerned 😬
I’ve also bought new shoes. I got some ASICS kayano 27s as higher drop daily trainers to rotate with my Arahis. My Nike infinity reacts just weren’t working as they are too loose around the Achilles/ankle and letting my wonky left foot, and therefore knee, rattle around all over the shop. Tried the ASICS out on an easy 5 miles today and they seem fine. Heavy which is fine for easy runs, but comfortable and definitely high on stability.